Translation of Article: Le Mat (the fool) as the Giant Bel-Gargan

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Kwaw,

Perhaps other cognates would be "naught" or "nought"?

Interesting in the sense that Nowt would mean fool and nothing.. considering the oft associated zero with the fool card.

robert
 

punchinella

From a perspective of fool-as-giant, what might one make of the dog I wonder? Since the dog appears proportional to the figure, would it not also be giant? Or, if one were to read it as guardian of Styx, etc., perhaps size would be immaterial & fluid?

Or, again, perhaps dog represents one aspect of fool himself (dog companion substituting for head-of-dog) in which case lack of difference in size between the two would make perfect sense.

Perhaps my thinking is overly concrete.
 

firemaiden

ROFL! you certainly point out a flaw in the logic logic of Fool as Giant. :D

Your second point, makes sense too (dog as aspect of dog-headed god) and is indeed suggested in the article.
 

kwaw

robertmealing said:
Kwaw,

Perhaps other cognates would be "naught" or "nought"?

Interesting in the sense that Nowt would mean fool and nothing.. considering the oft associated zero with the fool card.

robert

also the meaning of ox, in that in the #gd tradition it is associated with aleph, which means among other things ox.

Kwaw
 

jmd

It was certainly an appropriate timing to post about Bel in the Northern Hemisphere, firemaiden :)

With regards to Gargans and Tarot's depiction of the Fool, I think it was in one of the other threads on the card in which I mentioned it... and especially as its 'typical', or at least common as I recall from childhood in central France, imagery reminiscent of imagery found in Rabelais.

Actually, to be more precise, imagery mixing both Colporteur type depiction and the Giant mad and simlutaneously scary but benign depictions.

A good example of this is from the misnamed 'Charles VI' deck. Though on the imagery, one may certainly take the diminutive figures to be either children or normal sized adults compared to the gigantic proportions of the main figure, there is also that element of the human vs the superhuman.

On the other hand, the relative size of imagery is quite consistent with relative proportions as depicted from ancient times and especially during the middle ages, whereby a more important figure - whether Pope or Emperor, was often depicted as larger than other individuals.

In the depiction attached, what it also quite fascinating (from my perspective) is that the central main figure holds what appears to be a string with fourteen spheres... it would be in the fourteenth week from a major festival that the ensuing one would take place. Those celebrating Beltane, along with Lugh's day, Samhain, and Oilmec would be well aware of this from personal experience.

As a counting-string which measures festival time until festival time, it is hence quite apt. Of course, it could further be fine-tuned by periodical astrological reference (interestingly by working out the mid-points - ie, 15 degree points - of the four fixed zodiacal signs, or their closest or ensuing full Moons). Though this goes a little off-topic, using the Full Moons isn't as 'pagan' as it may sound, by the way. There is even to this day a Melbourne based Masonic Lodge which continues to time its meetings according to the Saturday closest to the Full Moon - simply as a continuation of the days before cars and street-lighting: a very pragmatic choice!

Measuring, then, festivities according to such would also lend additional credence to the Fool as imfluenced by Lunar tendencies (Lunatic).

Returning to Bel, the Sun's festivals, mirrored by Lunar ones, would seem both appropriate and quite meaningful. If one looks again at the sense for the flurry of activity (and some possible igniteous rolling through the meadows - presumably in the arms of another), the abandonment may further give a sense for both Bel as the gifts of the Blessed Sun, madness associated with spring, and the stoning of a feared giant.

But here is the image:
 

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firemaiden

Wow! what an image!! and what astounding briefs! and what a fascinating post!


(mewonders if those fruit-of-the-loom underpants were a 20th century addition)
 

Strange2

kwaw said:
There is an old English word 'nowt', still common in Northern English dialects, which orginates from Norse and the Viking invasions. 'Nowt' means 'nothing', 'fool' and 'ox'. Strange coincidence!?

Kwaw

The references in this thread to giants from the North and ox immediately brought to mind the American mythic figure of the giant lumberjack Paul Bunyan, and his giant blue ox Babe. Truly a "tall tale". Here are links to more info on Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox:

http://www.newnorth.net/~bmorren/bunyan.html
http://www.vintageviews.org/vv-3/scenic/pages/sec05_004.html
http://www.brainerd.com/pbtrail/page4.html

Going further with the Babe and Blue connections, in Crowley's discourse on The Fool in the Book of Thoth, he mentions Harpocrates, who is often depicted as the "Babe in the Blue Egg".

Curiouser and curiouser...