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Mantegna


Thanks for your friendly words, mermaid. It's always good to feel that it has some worth.

And ..... Trionfi.com proudly presents:

A rather fine Mantegna edition, complete, xtra large to make it possible to study some details, was arranged in cooperation with some helpers in the net, reachable at:

http://trionfi.com/01/j/mant/

rather fine, don't miss it. A 16th century deck from Cologna, rather identical to the originals, but the copyst made some writing errors.

I you're just there, take a look around, a lot of things already has changed, for instance the buttons "communications", "Research", "Documents" and "Decks" looks rather different now (some contents were added, too). Of course, it's not ready, the work goes on.



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News


autorbis gave the following output at LTarot:



"Huck Meyer has added some info about a "Master of the
Bandalore", a card-painter from the Netherlands,
reachable under the points "Decks" at Trionfi.com

http://trionfi.com/01/j/

or directly under

http://geocities.com/tarocchi7/info.html

There are also some new links at the "Decks" page,
leading to small colour pictures of Trionfi cards,
some Este, Catelin de Geofroy etc. Unluckily to small
to see too much.

http://trionfi.com/01/j/

The new Cologne Mantegna-version is also mentioned
there:

http://trionfi.com/01/j/mant/

Ross Caldwell has explored some details about the
Decembrio-Text. They are integrated in the
Documents-part of Trionfi.com:

http://trionfi.com/01/e/

under Link "Name of Trionfi", between Document 2 and
3.


I've interest to found a historical newsletter, which
is published any month or so or unregularely. Anybody
interested to participate? I essentially need some
co-workers for that, I've too much to do."


Also he gave the following question:

"Hi,

there is a note, going back to a statement of H.
Brockhaus, that Bessarion, Cusanus and Pius II. in
Mantua created the Mantegna Tarocchi.

I don't believe that. But one should know the
arguments precisely, and I don't know them. Does
anybody can give them? There is a "game of the
goverment of the world" mentioned as being used in
Mantua. To which source does it refer?"

Huck



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Thanks for the update, Huck.

As you may have realised, I've been basically out of action for the past few weeks, only getting back to posting a couple of days ago, trying to slowly catch up on the many wonderful posts I have missed.

With regards to a Newsletter, this is indeed a wonderful development. I have been putting out a monthly Newsletter for the International Tarot Conference - though it has been quite restricted in size (a double A3 page), and have often included an abridged paper/article with historical merit. I also know, however, that a couple of other people with historical interests have had problems with my .pdf format, and have not been able to ascertain why.

I would certainly be interested in participating in this development - though more from an iconographic/symbolic perspective than a strictly historical/documentary one (though of course this too is important).

Looking forward to checking again the links, and the development of the Newsletter...
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Re: News


Quote:
Originally posted by Huck
autorbis gave the following output at LTarot:

Ross Caldwell has explored some details about the
Decembrio-Text. They are integrated in the
Documents-part of Trionfi.com:

http://trionfi.com/01/e/

Huck
Besides being intrinsically interesting, Polismagna's translation is yet another indication of Ferrara's intense interest in carte da trionfi. But exactly what kind of trionfi were they? That's a question worth exploring.

Trionfi as a theme are present in Ferrara in art, spectacle, literature, moral guide books (Trotti) and sermons (Steele sermon is likely from there). The theme "triumph" is nowhere else even remotely as big. Of the 28 occurences of the phrase up to the mid-sixties, 24 come from Ferrara.

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Trionfi - not related to Playing Cards


The word Trionfi, which is the old name for Tarot cards, has many meanings.

Some spotlights around that word, when it is not related to playing cards, you can find at:

http://trionfi.com/01/t

done by autorbis


Researching the Malatesta-family is one of the projects of of Ross Caldwell and autorbis. It stayed unfinished and will probably wait a longer time, but a result are some good biographical article to this somewhat strange family (occasionally related to playing and Tarot-cards, translated mostly by Ross from an older French biographical dictionary:

http://trionfi.com/01/k/mal/



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Karnöffel


An opinion about the origin of the word Karnöffel

http://trionfi.com/01/c/karn/name.html

not totally developed, but ready for discussion



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Johannes and some others


Thanks to some recent interactions with Eberhard here at aeclectic.com the article to Johannes of Rheinfelden found a form (not totally ready, as usual):

http://trionfi.com/01/c/karn/johannes.html

The project "Imperatori and some other decks" was filled with the completion of some themes. The momentary state is:

Introduction - NOT READY

Imperatori Documents in Ferrara

Documents: Karnöffel and Kaiserspiel

The Council of Constance

The Name Karnoeffel

Ringmann's Latin Grammar
Huck Meyer's Site

Commentary to Ringmann Cards

Considerations on Chess - NOT READY

Rothschild Cards

Cary Yale Dating

Cary Yale

Guildhall + Goldschmidt Cards - NOT READY

all reachable in the menu of

http://trionfi.com/01/c/

also, to some side aspects of the Imperatori-time my own site

http://geocities.com/tarocchi7

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I have only just discovered this lil' slice o heaven, the noo......MARVELOUS......
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Re: Bravo!


Quote:
Originally posted by moon_mermaid
Thanks for sharing your research. To be honest, I have never studied medieval history, so it is really a pain in the neck when I read the historical threads. I just get all the ??? Sigh.

This site is really wonderful, it makes thing more clearer to me. I like the way the documents are written, human and easy to understand. Just I need to share the computer with my brother, so I cannot linger long enough on this site. Another sigh.

A bow to all wonderful and intelligent contributors to the site.

moon_mermaid
Thanks for your comment. However, I'm only the tell-it-all for the
group, the major active writers are Ross Caldwell and autorbis. Ross Caldwell is occasionally here, also Mari Hoshizaki, who does occasionally some background research mainly. My humble contribution is on the lower charts:

http://geocities.com/tarocchi7

responsible for "German aspects".
A very nice page for "beginners" is the point "decks" with links to many researches, reachable

http://trionfii.com/01/j

Thanks.

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Something new:


1. Inana's List: 10 000s Tarot cards

http://trionfi.com/01/j/i


2. Article to the hierarchy between suits

http://trionfi.com/01/e/r70/16.html

or better readable as point "Card Playing Wheel"

at http://www.trionfi.com/01/e/


3. Article to Johannes of Rheinfelden at

http://www.trionfi.com/01/c/karn/johannes.html

or better readable at

http://www.trionfi.com/01/e/

point Johannes of Rheinfelden



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