Astral travelling and possession

Milfoil

Very true, we can loose parts of ourselves very easily. One I remember was a little girl who was in a fit of pique because she didn't get her own way! 30 years later she was reunited with her older self and brought that feisty spirit with her which was just what she needed.

Asking for your soul parts back can work in easy cases but more difficult ones sometimes we need to negotiate, change ourselves etc before a soul part will agree to return or stay once here. It's not a magic wand but a healing process which needs both sides to work at it.

Some people astral travel regularly from childhood with no bad effects, others run into problems and I have no idea exactly why this is other than when someone else with the right skills takes a specific and active interest in them.
 

214red

Milfoil said:
Some people astral travel regularly from childhood with no bad effects, others run into problems and I have no idea exactly why this is other than when someone else with the right skills takes a specific and active interest in them.
I used to as a kid with no side effects, i am learning to control it now, but useing a different body so its less connected to my physical body, control is hard work to learn, as a kid i didnt know about some of the things i know now...so its harder work
 

Dancing Bear

I wouldnt have a clue if i astral travel, If its consciously then probably no i dont. whilst asleep maybe?

But with the possession bit,
I am not overkeen on the notion a dead persons soul can enter yours, But i have experienced someone entering my mind.. Whether it was my entire body, it didnt feel like it.,This person was and is alive and practiced astral travel and some sort of voodoo magic. This person was african and living and working over here.
No harm was done, but it did freak me out a bit. I still had full control of my body functions and thoughts, but i spoke to this person like i would my guides. Only they were louder and clearer LOL!
I think this person was trying to clear up something i saw,, and they didnt like what i did see and they were trying to convince me otherwise.
Hence why they came to visit. why my opinion mattered at all beats me.

This episode really made me delve deeper into the world of souls and spirit.. probably hoping to understand what the hell happened and how!!

I know now it can never happen again without my permission.
at the time i was vunerable and way too inexperienced.

Can someone astral travel and communicate with another person who is wide awake or asleep, I would say yes!!

I have heard of people doing it( Astral travelling) whilst sleeping , and not realise what it is they are doing, Visiting people and hearing entire conversations. until dots start joining over a period of time.

Can a passed over soul enter your body while you are astral travelling, i doubt it very much.



I love scary movies btw,, :D what movie was it?
 

SarahRacheal

I have personal experience of "dreaming" a conversation whilst asleep, the next morning talking to my mum about it I have pretty much recited a conversation that she and my step dad were having the evening before. So I will strongly agree that people "wander" while they sleep.
As for getting lost and not returning to our bodies this makes me think of people stuck in comas.
 

214red

SarahRacheal said:
I have personal experience of "dreaming" a conversation whilst asleep, the next morning talking to my mum about it I have pretty much recited a conversation that she and my step dad were having the evening before. So I will strongly agree that people "wander" while they sleep.
As for getting lost and not returning to our bodies this makes me think of people stuck in comas.
I could always tell when i had been for a wonder, hard to explain but you just can often tell. I have created a coffee shop in the universe to go to when astral travelling, me and my friend are trying to meet up there when travelling, no luck so far!


Reference your comment about comas, have you heard of 'walk ins'? these are meant to be when someone dies and a soul/spirit decides to walk into the body, so the person then goes through memory loss and exhibits a completely different personality etc. Now, you would have to beleive that souls get an opportunity at the moment of death to continue live, or go back home.
 

mza

Wow thanks :) for all the responses on here, amazing insights on how people see things differently.

What prompted me to ask as well is my own experiences. Because astral travelling for me started when i was very young (and i only actually found out what it was a few years ago!). I have a memery like an elephant so i remember these incidences mostly as dreams. I think therefore that it happens to a lot of people unconsciously in dreams. I heard there are some people who can after meditating and relaxing their minds can consciously project. So I really don't think that people just dive into it and just experiment for the fun of it. I believe that you probably develop the interest in it because your spirit/essence or soul (whatever people prefer to call it) recognises that you are ready. Also that you have some experience in your past lives, or your ancestors ( as your guides) know you have that ability and that thru it you can benefit somewhat. Also as far as i know in my experience you don't go into astral or other planes on your own without guidance. Its always someone who is closest to you in spirit and one assigned by God (or source etc depending on your beliefs) who is always there to guide you. I've always been prayerful and sometimes in my sleep i don't go anywhere but I am aware that i'm asleep such that if any negative entities visit me I am able to pray in spirit while still asleep and it goes away. How i know its negative is down to the spirit part of me. I've noticed negative entities are those who try to drag you by force from the bed while sleeping or call you using a familiar voice in the hope you answer and then if you do... I 've seen the dragging (and resisted thank goodness!) about three times in my sleep. I hope someone understands what I mean lol.
Overall I think when people get attacked in the astral is because they are vulnerable and haven't asked for protection and going astral in the first place without knowing it. I strongly believe if you don't pray (or meditate etc) and yet you are more spiritual by nature than you realise you can be exploited in the spirit realm unaware . The effects of the exploitation (people get raped in dreams , are fed certain things etc and don't know how to stop it) can also start to affect daily life i think by feeling like things don't work out in general for you.

214red said:
I think people are foolish to attempt this stuff without building a relationship with the spirits/energies that they have been assigned to work with, that is very important. Soul retrieval and soul rescue are specialist areas of work, you don’t just wake up and do it, you have to learn (you can learn in groups or be taught by spirit), and have experience, it takes time.

People seem to want things now, ignoring the foundations, the cornerstones of what they wish to do, they just want to dive in, without experiencing things with an experienced tutor (physical or spirit), and hopefully if you can a supportive group.

Why not ask for your soul fragments back, see how you feel when you do that, and then move on to bigger things.
I leave my body to do trance and physical mediumship, it takes time, practice, direction, support, and most important trust....i had to learn the foundations before i could be this properly, it took time, people should think long and hard before they start wanting to leave your body. it feels fantastic and some people like the feeling of euphoria so much they get addicted to it, dont want to come back, if your not grounded this is a big worry

For interest's sake and to learn something new I should try to find out more about soul parts and retrievals as well. Thanks. Do you think evil spirits can persist even if you pray or meditate and then overpower you. Are there ways of protecting yourself to overcome these attacks which are used by say people who perhaps don't have a particular faith . What of wiccan practices and people of other beliefs: muslim, hindu etc. If anyone knows...
 

mza

SarahRacheal said:
I have personal experience of "dreaming" a conversation whilst asleep, the next morning talking to my mum about it I have pretty much recited a conversation that she and my step dad were having the evening before. So I will strongly agree that people "wander" while they sleep.
As for getting lost and not returning to our bodies this makes me think of people stuck in comas.
Wow Sarah amazing ability. You could use that you know... Yeah the film involves someone in a coma. There's another film that touches on the spirit and coma link as well. Its called Just Like Heaven with Reese Witherspoon.
 

mza

Dancing Bear said:
I love scary movies btw,, :D what movie was it?
Dancing bear its called INSIDIOUS. Pleeeeaase think carefully before watching it. It really scared me , and i've been having disturbed sleep since watching it. I'm not easy to scare but now i sleep with the light on lol.
 

Consuela

But with the possession bit,
I am not overkeen on the notion a dead persons soul can enter yours, But i have experienced someone entering my mind.. Whether it was my entire body, it didnt feel like it.,This person was and is alive and practiced astral travel and some sort of voodoo magic....
This episode really made me delve deeper into the world of souls and spirit.. probably hoping to understand what the hell happened and how!!

I know now it can never happen again without my permission.
at the time i was vunerable and way too inexperienced.

Dancing Bear, I have a situation happening now which is perhaps relatable but different, and I would appreciate your advice. My schizophrenic brother died about five months ago and I was alone with him at the moment of his passing. I did what I could to comfort him and ease his passage but inadvertently and unwittingly allowed him to attach himself to me. His presence has become more apparent over time, with me noticing him peeping at me from the bathroom door, and a week later yanking my hair - a painful yank, with a lock of my hair standing out from my head for several minutes, observed by my partner as well as myself. It is a toxic thing and terribly worrisome for me. A spiritual counsellor has advised me to attend sessions with him over a lengthy period of time so that I can work up to detaching my brother and sending him to the right place, but I find it difficult to trust anyone at this stage (and I have a feeling I could be pulled into a costly ongoing relationship with someone I barely know and do not necessarily trust), so I am searching for ways of taking control myself.

Can you suggest anything?
 

Milfoil

Dancing Bear said:
But i have experienced someone entering my mind.. Whether it was my entire body, it didnt feel like it.,This person was and is alive and practiced astral travel and some sort of voodoo magic....
This episode really made me delve deeper into the world of souls and spirit.. probably hoping to understand what the hell happened and how!!

Same here, I have also experienced this and again, it was a person well practiced in dream/astral travel who practiced Voodoo. Must be some part of that path perhaps?

Dancing Bear said:
I know now it can never happen again without my permission.
at the time i was vunerable and way too inexperienced.

True, the last time I met this guy it was very clear where the boundary was drawn.