Diis gentium?

[Huck]

What precisely meant "diis gentium"? At which time meant it what?

How was "Belphegor" identified, painted, when and where mentioned in 14th/15th century?

 

[Daimonax]

What precisely meant "diis gentium"? At which time meant it what?

Diis - Dieux (datif ou ablatif pluriel de deus) gentium - des Gentils (génitif pluriel de gens).

Nota. La forme diis est très tardive, n'est pas du latin classique, qui aurait écrit "deis".

Signalons:
- "Omnes dei gentium sunt daemonia" (Psalm XCVI, 5 Vulgate)
- De Dei Gentium et illorum allegoriis (IIIe mythographe du Vatican - XI-XIIe siècle
- Genealogia Deorum Gentilium, par Boccaccio
- De dei gentium varia & multiplex istoria, par Giraldi (en 1560)


Evohé !
Daimonax

 

[Daimonax]

Gens, gentes, gentium...

Gens - gentis

1. Sens premier: race, souche, famille

2. Race de peuple, peuple, nation...
Notions décroissantes: gens / natio / civitas /
A comparer avec Adversus nationes d'Arnobus, "Contre les païens"

3. Peuple d'une cité (= civitas)

4. Pays, contrée (seulement au génitif pluriel- ex. [Cic., Cat. 1, 9]: "Ubiniam gentium summus ?" - En quel endroit du monde [en quel pays] sommes-nous? )

5. Au pluriel gentes, par opposition aux Romains, les barbares.
Puis les païens, par opposition aux chrétiens.

Evohé !
Daimonax

 

[Huck]

Valentina and the French court
http://trionfi.com/0/p/26

reflecting partly the "diis gentium" note of Gerson in 1395

 

[Ross G Caldwell]

Valentina and the French court
http://trionfi.com/0/p/26

reflecting partly the "diis gentium" note of Gerson in 1395

Very good. I'll get some more on this case of Valentina (and the accusations against Louis as well). There are biographies of Valentina - you can see on Tolfo's page at storiadimilano.com
http://www.storiadimilano.it/Personaggi/Ritratti femminili/valentina_visconti.htm -
but the page itself is very informative and seems to consider all the evidence.

Nobody believes that Valentina bewitched her brother-in-law the King; especially as he did not improve after she left Paris.

What I am waiting for is the Gerson reference; Diane seems to have forgotten where it is, and her presentation is not full enough to reconstruct it or judge its value.