Magical names

Milfoil

Have you been given a magical/spirit name? Was it given to you or did you arrive at it yourself? Was there a mechanism involved (ie the first two things you saw on coming out of a tent)?

What purpose do you think having a spirit/magical name serves?

One of the reasons I ask is that I know many pagan people here in my area who have adopted a new name, invariably they include 'silver, rowan, moon, raven, wolf' or a combination. The names all seem to follow very specific Wiccan ideals of what is powerful rather than the wider complexity of nature. So not knowing much about how such names are given I wondered if anyone could shed light on this.

The second reason for asking relates more to titles rather than spirit names.

What is your gut reaction (I am a strong believer in gut instincts as long as they are not mixed up with personal grievances) to the following title for a teacher?:

Reverend Elder Pathfinder Shaman
 

tarotbear

What is your gut reaction to the following title for a teacher?:

Reverend Elder Pathfinder Shaman

A little heavy-handed, IMHO. I would drop the 'shaman' as redundant imagery.

I created a magickal name based on the numerology of my real name. It took a little doing to get the spelling to add up correctly.
 

Alta

I thought that spiritual names were supposed to kept secret, on the 'names have power' idea. So if someone knows your secret name, then they have power over you. I don't have one, but if I ever receive one, I wouldn't advertise it.

btw: Golden Silvery Dionna came from a "What is your fairy name?" on-line name generator and I kept it because it amused me.

The title (Reverend Elder Pathfinder Shaman) seems a little over-done to me. I would feel dubious about a teacher who felt they needed a title like that.
 

PathWalker

Yes I have a magical name, but as a solitary I worked on it myself. I wanted it to express who I felt I wanted to be, what was important to me, the way I would like the beloved Lady and Lord to know me.

For what it's worth it doesn't contain any of the words you mentioned LOL but perhaps they are a function of the area you live in. I wasn't trying to express power or ego, just my inner self - which is equally well expressed by my avatar of green wellies :)

I wouldn't share my name, as Alta suggests, (BTW the fairy name is crackingly good!)

As for the title for the teacher - my gut reaction - does a teacher need a title? If they're a good teacher they surely don't need anything that pretentious.

Sorry, no offense intended there, but that's my gut reaction.

Blessings
PW
 

gregory

I wouldn't share my name, as Alta suggests, (BTW the fairy name is crackingly good!)
And DOESN'T it suit her. I wish I knew which site she used - I always get ghastly ones... (Maybe I am just ghastly :D)

As for the title for the teacher - my gut reaction - does a teacher need a title? If they're a good teacher they surely don't need anything that pretentious.
I don't mind teachers using titles like "doctor" when they are appropriately used - as they indicate education level and so on - but this one - NO !

ETA how did she get THREE names. I seem to be Moth Willowglitter today.... :laugh:

ETA - also Zephyr Elmfeather on another site which didn't even ask MY name :confused:
I still want three like Alta. To make up for my AWFUL middle name :mad:

HM. Or on another site - putting in my name three times....

Foster: the Forest Guardian.

Or Christalle: The Translucent One

OR Cleantha: Glory Flower

How much credit can one give to ANY of this stuff ?
 

PathWalker

Moth Willow Glitter - three!
 

gregory

Moth Willow Glitter - three!
But it isn't REALLY three.... It only asked for two of myt names and gave it as two words... :(

We are derailing. I only posted to point out that so many of these names are so totally fake !
 

Carla

I have a sort of magical name. I don't know how I came to it (or it came to me) but no one gave it to me as I'm solitary. It's just a word that I started thinking about a lot for some reason. It's actually a dead common name, really. Nothing airy fairy about it.
 

Milfoil

That's rather what I thought about title Reverend Elder Pathfinder shaman. Pretentious does seem the right word. Shame because the guy who started that particular 'tradition' (which is all of 8 years old, if that) is really nice but all this 'glamour' does him no favours, nor those who associate with him and accept the same title to be in the club. He's what I would call a 'hungry wolf'.
 

Cat*

Have you been given a magical/spirit name? Was it given to you or did you arrive at it yourself? Was there a mechanism involved (ie the first two things you saw on coming out of a tent)?
No, I don't have a magical/spirit name. I have on one occasion used a name that someone else had dreamed of as a name for me, but I'm not sure I'd do so again.

What purpose do you think having a spirit/magical name serves?
I can imagine several purposes. Anonymity/separation from one's everyday/legal name, especially when you have reason to assume that your spiritual inclinations wouldn't be looked on favorably by your neighbors and/or family and/or boss. In that sense, "Cat" is such a name because it's the one I use when I discuss spirituality online.

I think I have also heard of special names granting a special kind of protection as long as nobody but your spirit guides/allies knows it. The flipside of this coin would be that knowing one's magical/spirit name would give you some kind of power over them. Since I lack personal experience with that kind of interaction between magical workers, I don't see a need for such a name for myself.

I can also see how a name change could express/make official a change of one's path, but that would apply more to a legal name change than to the adoption of a (secret) magical/spirit name. For me, that's what self-applied "labels" are for, if and as long as I need them, so no need for an extra name.

Along the same lines, I understand that some people (like PathWalker has described) adopt a new name (secret or not) to express a spiritual ideal for them to strive towards. Again, this is not for me, so, again, no need for a different name.

And then there are some more problematic reasons: Because "everyone" else does it (or at least "Special Person X" does). Because it seems to go better with the (pseudo-)historic clothing that some people wear for spiritual purposes. Because it makes one feel special. All of which may of course occur in combination with any of the above-mentioned reasons.

The second reason for asking relates more to titles rather than spirit names.

What is your gut reaction (I am a strong believer in gut instincts as long as they are not mixed up with personal grievances) to the following title for a teacher?:

Reverend Elder Pathfinder Shaman
My gut reaction? This: Bwahahaha! :laugh: I would never take that person seriously as a teacher. Way too much ego in there.

I accept that "Reverend" is a title that some religious organizations give to some of their members (which may or may not mean these members have any special qualifications). I accept that such a title may be necessary to be allowed to officially perform specific rituals (like weddings) in some areas of the world. So that alone doesn't bother me all too much, although I also wouldn't think any higher of a person with the title of "Reverend" than I would of anyone without it unless I knew what exactly they had to do to get the title.

But the rest of the list just indicate a rather big ego to me. Maybe that person is indeed regarded as an elder by their community. Maybe she/he really does a shaman's work for their community, warts and all. But even if that is the case, why the unnecessary capitalization of these terms? That just suggests that there is an universal organization out there that has the power to grant such titles after a regulated examination of the applicant's capabilities. And such an organization simply doesn't exist (and I think we're better off for it).

And "Pathfinder"? What is that even supposed to mean?!

I'd rather learn what kind of WORK someone does and what services they perform for their community on a regular (and recognized) basis. That kind of (verifiable) information tells me a whole lot more of what I want to know to decide if someone is trustworthy than any list of fancy titles ever would.