Question for those who communicate

[Tanga]

I've followed this thread with great interest...
But. I've now come to think that maybe keeping mum is not so much about keeping it secret, but keeping others from "tainting" it. Say, you talk about your spiritual messages to people who don't believe it or see them in a sinister light, and their doubtfulness makes you doubt too. So you won't take it in as you consciously or subconsciously hesitate or disregard it.

And that, is exactly part of the power of "To keep silent". ("the 4th 'power'...*she says with posh accent and and palm raised, finger over lips in drama*).

Re: how to get guides to appear.
Hmm.
I've never gone looking - ideas/views of them just sort of 'pop' into my head.

Usually this has been when I've been engaged in some sort of meditative practice, or been receiving treatment which has a meditative/energetic element to it.
So for example - one guide appeared during a Reiki 2 initiation years ago. Just there out of the corner of my eye and I'm thinking - "What the?...am I mad?". I kept it to myself and wondered - and it just never went away. So eventually I decided "Well this must be a guide thingy that everyone talks about right?...so ahh - *now directly addressing the vision* - who the H are you and what do you want?".

Another appeared when I was having moxa on my acupuncture needles. Now - granted, moxa does have psychoactive effects Lol. Moxa - is mugwort. (and then again, it's in the altered state that such things are sometimes accessed, whatever the modality to get to that state. I prefer meditation myself).

Apparently one can meet them deliberately by path working to find them...(sort of as in Shamanic practice I think. You go on a journey and who you meet - is your guide).
Walk along your favourite sacred path in your head to a personal sanctuary and wait there and see who you meet.
You could try - meditating with invitation for them to appear, whilst you peacefully wait...
Or... programming yourself before you go to sleep to meet them in your dreams - if you're into that.
Expect lots of repetition before anything happens that you can intuitively feel - "that's the one". (I think...I don't know. I'm just yammering with ideas here really... )

Yes! Especially when you are about to reveal private stuff between them and yourself!

I remember this one time when I had to g...

Betrayer! Shock! Horror! reveal "private stuff between them and yourself???

 

[celticnoodle]

I met my first guide while sleeping. However, it wasn't a dream. I thought it was at first, and remember pinching myself to be sure. What I can remember is waking up to a very bright light in our bedroom.

Now, we had very heavy curtains in our bedroom made to block out the light. They were lined with a special fabric just for this purpose. There were also blinds that were drawn tightly at night, so two (or three I guess) layers of protection against light). We always close our bedroom door for that added protection from light and noise as well.

When I realized there was a bright light shining in our room, I woke up, thinking perhaps it was morning, or perhaps the hubby was awake. I recall opening my eyes and I saw standing before me a monk, heavy set, and in a brown frock, standing there softly calling my name.

I rubbed my eyes and he was still there. This is when I pinched myself. I looked over in the bed, and there was the hubby sound asleep and snoring deeply. I could just barely make out the outline of his body as he layed there. He's a very light sleeper, so I was amazed this light and the monks talking to me didn't wake him up--but it didn't.

I remember sitting up in bed as the Monk asked me if I was ready to start my spiritual journey. I remember uttering a weak 'yes' and shaking my head. He said a few other things to me as well, but I really can't recall what now. Then, slowly he began to fade and I was just transfixed on watching him. I knew that I was awake. I remember looking all around the room, and I could barely make out where our dresser was, the closet, the master bathroom, the door leading to the hallway, my husband. It was so dark you couldn't easily see much--but I knew where these things were, and yet this 'spirit' appeared to me, spoke to me and then left.

I layed back down and fell back to sleep and in the morning began to search for what I had just experienced. I've seen spirits all my life off and on and spoke with them too--but this was very different for me! It was soon after that I found the A.T. website and joined up. And, the rest is as they say...history

However, one other very interesting thing did take place. I once took a planned 'trip' astrally, to find myself in a previous life through a meditation. I ended up in a room where many monks were sitting at desks writing out the bible in calligraphy. I was standing behind this one monk, also quite heavy set--sitting on a wooden stool at a wooden desk. I could feel and see that the floor was a dirt floor. I kept looking around at all the monks working on the bibles, and yet none of them seemed to sense me!

Then, all of a sudden, a very large door opened and another monk walked into the room. He could see me. We made eye contact and interestingly enough--it was the monk 'guide' I saw and mentioned above. I realized after this meditation though that the one monk I was sitting behind was 'me' in a previous life. I imagine the monk who came through the door was my friend back then and today, he is my guide.

That was the first guide I can recall ever meeting. It was a powerful experience--both meetings.

 

[Tanga]

I met my first guide while sleeping. However, it wasn't a dream...
Then, all of a sudden, a very large door opened and another monk walked into the room. He could see me. We made eye contact and interestingly enough--it was the monk 'guide' I saw and mentioned above. I realized after this meditation though that the one monk I was sitting behind was 'me' in a previous life. I imagine the monk who came through the door was my friend back then and today, he is my guide.

That was the first guide I can recall ever meeting. It was a powerful experience--both meetings.

I see...
Does he sing?
One of mine rattles and very occasionally drums.

 

[smw]

have your guides told you not to share the info[\QUOTE]

Not exactly, I don't think I have guides. However, I have had the urge to blab a couple of dream visitor experiences and each time I have had an equally strong urge to delete the post or mess up somehow with computer gremlins ( disguised as my ineptness )

On a more serious note, I think my wanting to share is a mixture of ego, oh look at me! special dream visitors, being a blabber and an attempt to offload difficult feelings -get rid of them....

 

[celticnoodle]

I see...
Does he sing?
One of mine rattles and very occasionally drums.

no, I don't think so. Never had a guide do that.

I'm not sure, but I would imagine he pretty much just prays and sings songs of Glory to God.

 

[mingbop]

Mine is a giggler

 

[EmpressArwen]

have your guides told you not to share the info[\QUOTE]

Not exactly, I don't think I have guides. However, I have had the urge to blab a couple of dream visitor experiences and each time I have had an equally strong urge to delete the post or mess up somehow with computer gremlins ( disguised as my ineptness )

On a more serious note, I think my wanting to share is a mixture of ego, oh look at me! special dream visitors, being a blabber and an attempt to offload difficult feelings -get rid of them....

That is exactly what the one guide accuses me off ..."the oh look at me" thing...I personally don't see it. I feel like its just me trying to work through confusing things and I have no one to talk to about it but the people here. But I am trying to listen to them and keep it quiet...who knows...maybe I'll even learn something. lol

 

[smw]

That is exactly what the one guide accuses me off ..."the oh look at me" thing...I personally don't see it. I feel like its just me trying to work through confusing things and I have no one to talk to about it but the people here. But I am trying to listen to them and keep it quiet...who knows...maybe I'll even learn something. lol

yes, I find it hard to work through by myself confusing or unsettling things too, more than 'the look at me' thing. Though that is maybe a helpful reminder (if a bit stingy) to keep an eye for staying balanced and keeping a broader perspective.

 

[bonebeach]

Man, I talk back to my patron deity ALL THE TIME. Of course, he's not stern or school teacher like with me, either. I mean, maybe, like, the cool teacher that lets you get away with stuff but only when you're acing your tests, that kind of thing. As long as I'm paying attention, we're good.

He's told me some very specific, very real world stuff before that comes to pass exactly as he's said--and sometimes, yeah, he warns me to not talk about it. Not so much because it's forbidden, but often just because it would be socially weird or awkward or seen as disrespectful by other living human people if I had prior knowledge of something. So yeah, I think sometimes your guides are hush hush about things, and the reasons for that might just be pretty practical and mundane. More often than not, though, mine nudges me to be more open about my spiritual practices.

My relationship with my patron involves a lot of (loving) smack talk from both sides, though, so your mileage may highly vary.