Sex Magic(k)

[earthair]

*****

 

[Zephyros]

As we've been skirting around the issue on a few threads lately, here goes nothing...

Do you think it really helps focus/amplify the magic(k) you're working with, or is it a distraction? I mean that in both ways- if you're anticipating doing something magic-y when reaching orgasm then it's taking something away from the orgasm, and vice versa?

While one can bring in magickal practices into normal sexual ones, it isn't the norm. Nor, as far as I know, is it even recommended. It needn't even involve actual sex, but the ideas inherent in it.

 

[earthair]

88888

 

[SunsetKay]

I suppose it depends on what you mean by sex magic(k). I'm only familiar with my own system. It's kind of primarily based on nature (my system) and there is nothing more natural than sex. Different fertility rituals call for different, erm, activites and fluids and I would term that sex magic. As a matter of fact, a lot of the work that I do with earth calls for different fluids. Also, as far as orgasm is concerned, it isn't always necessary. In fact in some instances, it's detrimental.

I don't see sex magic in the same way that I see sex, but I also don't think that the energy differs, if that helps. The energy is created every single time that I have sex (or fantasize, or anything like that), but I don't always USE that energy. So I kind of see it as instead of letting that energy float out into the world with no purpose, I harness it and give it a desire to manifest. And it's excellent for manifesting.

I don't think that the magic aspect detracts from the act either, I think it sort of adds something because I know I'll be creating, if that makes sense.

 

[prudence]

Has anyone here done sigil work and tried activating their sigil during orgasm? Or is that not the type of sex magick you are asking about, Earthair?

Here is an essay by Grant Morrison on pop magic, and he gets into signals too. http://disinfo.com/2014/10/pop-magic-grant-morrison/ I own the Disinformation DVD set, and after watching Morrison speak at a conference on it, I jumped right on in, with some great success.

 

[ravenest]

As we've been skirting around the issue on a few threads lately, here goes nothing...

Do you think it really helps focus/amplify the magic(k) you're working with,

That seems to be the whole idea .... but 'pop sex magick ' is , like the rest of 'pop magick' is a many tentacled and amorphous beast .

or is it a distraction?

Most pop occultism, magic, spiritualism is a distraction anyway, if one is going to follow along with such things .... may as well have fun with it .

I mean that in both ways- if you're anticipating doing something magic-y when reaching orgasm then it's taking something away from the orgasm, and vice versa?

" anticipating doing something magic-y when reaching orgasm " ..... oh well, I suppose its better than doing it drunk on the lounge with some mindless tv programme blaring in the back ground . 'Taking something away from the orgasm ? I am not sure what that means ... do you mean ' not really into it because the mind is elsewhere ?

Its hard to answer questions when they seem so undefined . B ut these general terms reminded me of a story. It was when Crowley was in court over some G.D. related fuss and the subject of 'sex majic arose' (in court ) Crowley tried to explain generally and it got confused, so he tried again and the Judge said " Ohhh ... you made a wish ."

sounded like the judge was familiar with the practice

or you could recite this while doing it

" When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to you.

If your heart is in your dream
No request is too extreme
When you wish upon a star
As dreamers do.

Fate is kind
She brings to those who love
The sweet fulfillment of
Their secret longing

Like a bolt out of the blue
Suddenly, it comes to you
When you wish upon a star
Your dreams come true

When a star is born
They possess a gift or two.
One of them is this
They have the power to make a wish come true.

When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to you,

If your heart is in your dream
No request is too extreme
When you wish upon a star
As dreamers do.

Fate is kind
She brings to those who love
The sweet fulfillment of
Their secret longing.

Like a bolt out of the blue
Suddenly, it comes to you
When you wish upon a star
Your dreams come true. "

 

[ravenest]

[I tried to phrase the question in an all encompassing way, because I was hoping to encourage anyone from any belief system into the discussion, from Wicca or Tantra or OTO or any other path].

Aside from the issue that the 'magic' might enhance or not the orgasm ( basically a matter of practice ) what do you want to know ?

I have two 'thinly veiled' stories on sex magick posted here somewhere , one from each extreme; 'The Egyptian' and 'The Demon Lover' .

 

[Tanga]

As we've been skirting around the issue on a few threads lately, here goes nothing...

Do you think it really helps focus/amplify the magic(k) you're working with, or is it a distraction? I mean that in both ways- if you're anticipating doing something magic-y when reaching orgasm then it's taking something away from the orgasm, and vice versa?

If you've put the orgasm firmly in the "magick" box - why then should it be a distraction?
I think it's a question of practiced focus... To detach yourself, such that you can direct fully into the magick without being swept away (it's the practice of a kind of 'split focus'. Something I understand very well - not from a sexual point of view, but from the view of being a physical therapist).

The sexual energy in magick and non-magick are the same imo.
It's your focus/attention/intension/awareness that differs.
And - it's the variation in focus/attention/intension/awareness in each, that varies the quality of each (magick or non-magick).

 

[earthair]

77777

 

[earthair]

77777