Spiritual basics: where to begin?

newlillith

I've been reading the threads in the spirituality section and I see ideas and terms that are commonly used, but that I'm totally lost on. I went to church for a few years as a kid and have just never felt totally comfortable with the Christian churches I've gone to. I found a Universalist church (that used only Christian texts unfortunately) that I kind of liked--but the music was atrocious. Ruined it for me.

Anyway. I see things on here on all the time about ideas such cleansing a room or space, blessing a space, or posts on here from mediums talking about protection and just a number of different things--that I have no conception of. I have no one to talk to about these things and I live in an area where metaphysical classes are few and far between, or pricey (and I'm poor). Are there any books or particular threads people know of to help me learn about all this? I'm sorry if I'm being obtuse or non-specific, but I really have no knowledge of most seemingly spiritual basics. I have a meditation altar and bought some sage incense that I burn occasionally (at the instruction of the local metaphysical shop owner, but honestly I don't feel comfortable talking to her a lot).

I know I'm rambling! I wish I had the money or the ability to find a teacher. I've been trying to for a few months and every now and then I find someone who I think could be good, but am never brave enough to ask them. So unless you know of a great person in the Kansas City region to talk to, a book or specific thread that I've overlooked would be great. I'm just so lost in this area.
 

AJ

Anyway. I see things on here on all the time about ideas such cleansing a room or space, blessing a space, or posts on here from mediums talking about protection and just a number of different things--
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For me, the above have nothing to do with spirit/spirituality and much to do with superstition.
But that's just me.
There are many threads here just trying to define spirituality :)

You've done right by looking through the threads in this forum and reading through the ones that speak to your heart. I did it myself this week, clear back to the beginning of the forum. I didn't read every one by any stretch, but the ones that gave me food for thought have enriched me all week.

Spirit is inside. You can ammend that inner person with altars and fun little bits, and rooms full of statues, but the inside is the only thing that matters. And that is a process that for many of us starts when we are old enough to recognize there are differences in the people around us and how they live their lives, and continues to death.
But that's just me.

And there are lots of christians here, I used to be one myself. I don't equate religion with personal spirituality either :)

Welcome, newlillith.

edited to add: this is a interesting quiz to take every few years..
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx
and it is an interesting site.
I'm considered a Secular Humanist. This week anyway.
 

DownwardSpiral

I guess it would begin with what is it you want to know?

I don't think there's any one path. There was also a discussion on "Spiritual paths" and everyone had different ideas about what a "spiritual path" was.

What grabs your interest right now? Spirit that has passed on? Spirit in general? Your Soul? Guides? Angels? Meditating? Journeying? I would start with whatever grabs your attention right now and find out more about it. From there you'll stumble onto other things (spiritual) that will grab your attention and as your interests branch out so will your knowledge : ) What might be important to me as I climb up my path might have no relevance to you. Or it may be something you're not ready to learn/accept yet.

My spiritual path started out with an interest in intuition and then learning to read the signs from the Universe. From there I learned about the Law of Attraction and had an interest in learning about soul mates. It wasn't until learning about soul mates that I started taking an interest in souls and spirit in general. Even back then I wasn't ready for alot of the stuff that interests me now. I learned to work with my guides and just recently learned to work with the Angels. And I'm learning to tie all my interests together : )
 

HOLMES

well

one thing you have to understand about spiritual basics is well, as aj has stated in a roundabout way,, it is very personal.
example for me , the things he said is superstition is very much a part of spiritual work, and practice.

and so we can only speak from personal experience.
the heirophant in the tarot I used to think was just conformity, and reversed it was rebellion yet over the years i been here and read book, i began to realize that any spiritual person who teaches what they have learned from teachers becoems a spiritual heirophant.

i used to think of the hermit as a lone teacher, yet he steps away from the organized way of learning both spiritual and or religious and seeks to have the personal experience that can't be taught in a book.
and so with my expanding way of seeing those two cards, my own spiritual studies have evolved over the time here.

the main thing for you to do is focus your study to what is it you want to learn ?
does healing interest you ?
does mediumship interest you ?
does spiritual development interest you ?
and for that matter what does that mean ?
does shamanism interest you
does wicca interest you ..
does spiritualism interest you (and spiritualist church ) .

each one of these thing takes time, investment of money (if you plans to take some courses, order books, get some dvds, cds on it ) and you may even decide that it is something you dont' want to explore so dont' go crazy lol.

going to to spirtual development for a moment ,, it can mean a lot of things to people,, and it is kind of subjective.
for me it was about raising up my vibration for a while there studying energy raising meditions, then after it was about studying spiritual topics like karma, the ashaksic records, the 7 rays.
i just didn't go from one thing to another,, instead i kind of just asked what is next, and went from there.

in fact right now,, the information on the web is a lot more then it was when I first started in 2002 about here. my point is there is more then wikipedia out there when you do searches for the following words
channelling
reiki
mediumship (and differnt aspects of it like sitting in power for example )

you will see loads on loads of links on google which is what I use.
the thing is to read through these things with a discerning mind yet open mind but also contrast and compare as to build some knowledge.
i mean spend a night and enter in channeling and see what you get, or ascended masters, or cold reading (which is one thing to be watching out for ,, to see if you are being taken advantage of ).

the thing to remember is you will generally get one of two links, one that is pro channeling, reiki etc.. and one that is against ak skeptic, or perhaps a person who had bad experience with it.
the other thing is after one, 2,, or three good reads you will started to see websites start to mimic each other, quoting the same information.
so you dont' really have to spend a night looking up one or two key words, but just a good hour will help.

also you tube videos is another way to look at things..
example look up psychic surgeon on you tube and you see you tube videos on how it is faked,, and also you tube videos by believers.

and i guess in closing,,
no one is perfect here as a teacher, everyone is human example the rescue mediums have a toast of spirits after they clear a spirit eh?.

the main thing is you are looking for the real deal, and someone who teachings resonate with you.

so going back to personal experiences.

due to my spiritual studies i ground , do a blessing, and raise my vibration as best i can before doing a tarot reading, doing a healing.. i like to play mediation music and light incense. and before i do these things i may play some gospel or some crystal bowl stuff.
but that is because it made sense to me, and it may be right for some people which is just ok as well for there are some who no doubt have some rituals i dont' folllow as well.

i guess the biggest thing i can tell you as someone who spent a lot of money on books is that after a while you find that the books start to sound like each other or some books are basics and that you crave more.
i recently got a slyvia browne bookt that in my view was misnamed and very basic when i thought i was getting an advanced book for my needs.
but you mention mediumship so i think that is where you should focus on solely there if you are really wanting to learn it.. but before you do,, i will tell you this.

like the saying that all things advanced, intermediate comes from the basics as the saying goes., this kind of runs like that.

the reason why spiritual training, studies is personal is this.

your first spiritual training aka the first teacher, the first really good book on a subject, the first course ones takes,, tends to define their spiritual basis for their rest of their spiritual evolvement. that is why it is good to contast and compare instead of staying to one method, or training one has acquired as the gospel for lack of a better example.

i guess you dont' want to make any one person the master, guru or put them on a pedstrel is what i am saying. i know the saying that one cant' server two masters might come up and then.
but i think this is more broader then that,, channeling/mediumship/psychic development compliment each other as opposed to are in conflict with each other.
so while you study and develop your gifts you are serving a broader master ..
like michangelo who studied art was able to make those great paintings though his training was in another field, but it was also because he had good training in the basics

yes using that as an example there are four gospels right ? each other a diffent take on the lord teachings, with a noted difference between gospel of john and the other three.
that is how it usually is with spirtual teachings, methods you acquire on your journey.
then you have your gnostic gospels as well .
so there is even more teachings out there for the spritual realm.

and i guess in closing again.
every person has their own gift, their own talents in the path of psychic/spiritual development and should follow what is in their heart for a further path.

what i mean by own gift is there is several clairs,, that i always have trouble spelling but pretty well they are spiritual sight, hearing, feeling, knowing.

some mediums are great at trance, and other are not, some are good at dealing with the earth bound and others deal only those who have cross over and come back.
 

celticnoodle

everyone has already given such great answers to you, New Lillith, and I'm going to add my own ideas, and hope that it will also help you out.

As everyone pretty much already pointed out, spirituality is very much a personal thing. So, perhaps trying to answer the questions that Holmes posted and the quiz that AJ posted, and the question Downwardspiral posed will be helpful to you in deciding where to begin. What ARE you interested in? What inspires you?

Downwardspirals statement of there not being any one path is absolutely correct. For every person there is a different path.

You've already started in the right way by exploring the threads here--that is a good start. Which of those threads really interested you? perhaps exploring those subjects more is a way to go. And, you don't have to sink a lot of money into exploring at first--googling things on the computer should bring up many sites related to whatever intrigues you. Thank goodness for google! Then, after that, check out your local library, though if it is anything like our local library--you won't have much to choose from, :laugh: but it IS a good start!

Also, like Holmes also brought up, check out videos on youtube. I've recently become interested in meditations with the angels and archangels and found some interesting you tube videos to listen to for this.

I also recently downloaded a chakra clearing and balancing cd that was highly recommended to me by a friend- on my iphone--and it cost me less then ten dollars to do so! I listen to that every night, and while my friend who recommended it finds that it gives her a lot of energy, for me, it relaxes me! so different from each other--though it is the same cd.

At any rate, perhaps listing here a few things that do interest you can give you a start in hearing what others feel about that same subject. Then, you can grow from there. some things you may get into for a little while only to realize 3mos. down the line that it doesn't interest you much and then you'll put it aside and go in a different direction. So, let us know maybe 3 areas that you are really interested in pursuing and then perhaps people here will give you some great ideas that have helped them and may help you as well.

Good Luck and enjoy your start on your spiritual path! it is a never ending path and a very fulfilling one that you are embarking on.
 

DownwardSpiral

some additional thoughts.....

Hi newlillith,

I hope you've had some time to read what's been written because there is truly some really great advice here : )

I have to say I agree in that as you explore via here, books, you tube, other online sites and google IS your friend...you will start to notice the same thoughts/ideas coming through. For me since this is MY own "personal" journey..."I" decide what rings true to me and what to discard. Also as CN pointed out it's wise not to invest too much money as what might interest you today may fizzle out in in a few weeks. Again for me.....at one point I thought scrying for divination? NO WAY thats too creepy. And then at some point I came back around and now I occasionaly scry. Right now my interest is in crystals and I'm finding out how truly powerful they actually are. I may have a huge interest in one thing only to stumble across something else while re-searching my interest....and now my interest jumps in a new direction. And it may do this a few times only to be led back to my original interest.

Something I like to do is go to Amazon and "search" a topic in books...say psychic abilities or soul connections etc. Then books will pop up to match your search. If a book interests me I will look inside if it has that feature and I'll also read any reviews written for the book. Then I like to see the ...customers who bought this book also bought/reviewed this book.

And then Amazon will "show" books that may also interest you. So you may have been looking for a book about psychic abilities and now books about chakras and "your energy" and how to raise your vibrations have your attention.

And I have to say...for so long I never viewed the you tube videos. But there is alot of really good information there including free meditations. And I love that one video will take you to umpteen more that may interest you : )

So don't worry about chosing the "right" path or the "right" way to begin...just begin and have fun enjoying your journey. : )
 

frac_ture

I think you're getting some very helpful advice in this thread already, newlillith!

I would definitely add my agreement to the idea that starting your explorations into any new subject with the internet is the way to go -- only after doing some free online digging should you start to consider sinking dough into classes, teachers, materials, etc.

I'd also say that you don't really need to feel apologetic about asking your questions here -- this is the absolutely perfect place to be doing that! Lots of people here will be happy to help you with feedback, suggestions, and the sharing of their own experiences. If something specific is on your mind -- like, "What is this 'cleansing' business I keep hearing about, and why/when/how do you do it...?" -- you should feel free to start a thread about it.

The advice you got upthread about delving into that which interests you the most is exactly what I'd recommend, too. Skim everything without getting too bogged down, figure out which subjects really speak to you and light you up (crystals? sound therapy? divination of various types? meditation? working with guides?), start to dig deeper into those, and feel absolutely encouraged to ask all your questions here as they present themselves to you. Like I said, many people will be happy to try to help you...:)
 

newlillith

Hi all,

Wow! I'm amazed and so grateful for all the responses. It has been really difficult for me to even begin to study anything beyond Tarot because I'm so...stuck. Kansas City isn't known for its open-mindedness (though maybe I'm not looking in the right places). I'm going to attempt to multi-quote here:

AJ said:
Spirit is inside. You can ammend that inner person with altars and fun little bits, and rooms full of statues, but the inside is the only thing that matters. And that is a process that for many of us starts when we are old enough to recognize there are differences in the people around us and how they live their lives, and continues to death.
But that's just me.

Yes, I do believe this--that spirit is inside everyone. And I definitely think it's a personal path. I'm at a really basic level. I'm not even sure of how to communicate with my spirit guides totally. I've picked up bits and pieces, but I'm at a place where I can't see what's next. However, I completely agree with you. Cultivating our inner spirit is the most important part of any kind of spiritual/religious practice. Thank you for the quiz! I got Neo-Pagan which I wasn't expecting...at all. I'll have to look into it : )

DownwardSpiral said:
What grabs your interest right now? Spirit that has passed on? Spirit in general? Your Soul? Guides? Angels? Meditating? Journeying? I would start with whatever grabs your attention right now and find out more about it. From there you'll stumble onto other things (spiritual) that will grab your attention and as your interests branch out so will your knowledge : ) What might be important to me as I climb up my path might have no relevance to you. Or it may be something you're not ready to learn/accept yet.

See, this is part of my problem--I'm interested in ALL of it right now! Picking a place to start is hard as I'm a "I'd like to know it ALL right NOW" kind of gal, but I will try to start somewhere! Also, what is "reading signs from the universe"? Like seeing signs in nature or omens? My interest is piqued!

HOLMES said:
your first spiritual training aka the first teacher, the first really good book on a subject, the first course ones takes,, tends to define their spiritual basis for their rest of their spiritual evolvement. that is why it is good to contast and compare instead of staying to one method, or training one has acquired as the gospel for lack of a better example.

i guess you dont' want to make any one person the master, guru or put them on a pedstrel is what i am saying. i know the saying that one cant' server two masters might come up and then.
but i think this is more broader then that,, channeling/mediumship/psychic development compliment each other as opposed to are in conflict with each other.
so while you study and develop your gifts you are serving a broader master ..
like michangelo who studied art was able to make those great paintings though his training was in another field, but it was also because he had good training in the basics

You have a lot of really good points in your post, thank you for taking the time to write all this! I think you have a good point--that our first contact with the spiritual defines how we see the rest of it. I'm reticent to use Google as I'm afraid that I'll be so overwhelmed by all the resources I'll have no way of choosing what is right. But then again, as you've said and everyone else on this thread, you have to do what's right for you. So I try to delve into google with an open mind and a discerning heart. I think you are also right to point out now to make any one person the sole source of my learning in this area. I will also have to take a look at Youtube. I can see (as I've known all along, but my poor little Capricorn heart hasn't wanted to admit) that learning in spiritual matters is neverending--I'll never be able to conquer this mountain, only to know it as best I can in my own way.

Celticnoodle said:
I also recently downloaded a chakra clearing and balancing cd that was highly recommended to me by a friend- on my iphone--and it cost me less then ten dollars to do so! I listen to that every night, and while my friend who recommended it finds that it gives her a lot of energy, for me, it relaxes me! so different from each other--though it is the same cd.

At any rate, perhaps listing here a few things that do interest you can give you a start in hearing what others feel about that same subject. Then, you can grow from there. some things you may get into for a little while only to realize 3mos. down the line that it doesn't interest you much and then you'll put it aside and go in a different direction. So, let us know maybe 3 areas that you are really interested in pursuing and then perhaps people here will give you some great ideas that have helped them and may help you as well.

I have a chakra balancing recording I listen to as well--I need to start doing that again. Thanks for reminding me! As far as my 3 things, to boil it down as best I can...I'm interested in: spiritual/psychic protection, connecting with spirit guides and spirits, and figuring out any talents I have in the spiritual/metaphysical realm. So I will have to start researching these. Thanks, it helps to make a list!

DownwardSpiral said:
Something I like to do is go to Amazon and "search" a topic in books...say psychic abilities or soul connections etc. Then books will pop up to match your search. If a book interests me I will look inside if it has that feature and I'll also read any reviews written for the book. Then I like to see the ...customers who bought this book also bought/reviewed this book.

And then Amazon will "show" books that may also interest you. So you may have been looking for a book about psychic abilities and now books about chakras and "your energy" and how to raise your vibrations have your attention.

This is a great idea! I don't know why I haven't thought of this before. Thanks for the tip!

WolfyJames said:
I could suggest the book The Mystic Foundation: Understanding and Exploring the Magical Universe by Christopher Penczak: http://www.amazon.com/The-Mystic-Fou...8747741&sr=1-1

It's a good beginner book about such concepts and he mentions numerous traditions as well.

Thank you! This looks perfect for where I'm at. I'm sadly uninformed about almost all things religious/spiritual. I'm going to see if my library has it.

frac_ture said:
I'd also say that you don't really need to feel apologetic about asking your questions here -- this is the absolutely perfect place to be doing that! Lots of people here will be happy to help you with feedback, suggestions, and the sharing of their own experiences. If something specific is on your mind -- like, "What is this 'cleansing' business I keep hearing about, and why/when/how do you do it...?" -- you should feel free to start a thread about it.

It's nice to see someone say this--thanks! I feel like a little fish in a BIG POND here, so it's hard to ask questions at times, but you're right: this is the perfect place to do it.

Guys, seriously, thank you! This has given me a lot to think on. Please feel free to pass on any other resources or ideas. I'm going to start researching my newly thought-out topics of interest. Part of my problem here is that there is no class (that I can find) or one recognized great teacher. I'm usually so formal in my learning that it's hard to structure something for myself. But these ideas have really helped me find a starting place. Thank you SO MUCH!!
 

AJ

Hokey Smokes bullwinkle, you have a ton of resources in KC
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...id=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Kansas+City+metaphysical

You mention funds are at a premium, ain't it the truth everywhere, but you can learn a LOT just by stopping by these places and asking questions. People love to talk about their passions, do them the courtesy of allowing it :)

and just defining your three top of the list interests will help your focus a lot.
I'm an information junkie and read everything I can find on a subject of interest. I then sift and sort it and take what I want and leave the rest.

And many times, I just haven't been ready for something when I've first taken note, and later embrace it with open arms, or kick it to the curb, knowing myself better, later.

all the best. I respect the opinions of everyone who has posted responses, this is a great forum for sharing without ramming things down your throat.