The Imperatori deck, the grandfather of Tarot

Huck

By a humble note in a Ferrarese account book from Ferrara 1423 ... :-(

"1423, adi VIIII de octobre
Giovani Bianchin de havere per uno paro de carte da VIII imperadori messe d'oro fino che elo fé vegnere da Fiorenza per Madona Marchexana, le quale have Zoexe famio de la dicta dona; costono fiorini 7, nove, e per spexe da Fiorenza a Ferrara soldi 6 de bolognini; in tuto valgono
..... L. XIIII.VI. de bolognini

Io Giovani Bianchini scripsi adi soprascripto"

luckily translated by Ross Gregory Caldwell ... :)

"1423, on the day 9 October Giovanni Bianchini to have for one pack of cards of VIII Emperors gilded, which was brought from Florence for Milady Marchesana (Parisina d'Este), which Zoesi * (name of the servant) servant of said Lady had; priced 7 florins, new, and for expenses (of the transport) from Florence to Ferrara 6 Bolognese soldi; in all valued
….. L. XIIII.VI. Bolognese

I Giovanni Bianchini wrote it on the above-written day."

... we do know of the existence of Imperatori cards in this year.
For the first time.

The cards must be a novelty, otherwise an import of Florence would be unlikely.

In 1426 we do hear from Noerdlingen in Germany for the first time the word "Karnoeffel" and it refers to a card game - not to a deck. It's the oldest mentioned card-game.

Around 70 years later the bishop Geiler from Kaisersberg informs us in an opposing speech, that Karnoeffel or Karniffelius is the same game as a Ludus Caesarum.

In 16th century the Kaiserspiel is the most played card game in Suisse.

So far ... Imperatori means Kaiser and the word Kaiser comes from Caesar, so somehow all is the same and one could call it also Karnoeffel. So one could think ...

No, not really, there is very small contradiction, and that is that humble sign "VIII" in this Ferrarese document. It signals, that the "Imperatori cards from Florence are a deck", not a game. But from Karnoeffel it is clear, that it is a game, which could be played with any ordinary playing card deck .... And from other documents, also from Ferrara, we really know, that this "being a deck" is really a deck and not a game.

A game with 8 cards ... that seems rather absurd. Well, probably these 8 cards were considered to be addded to a normal deck and then it makes logic: 52 or 56 normal cards + 8 special cards. And this 56 + 8 special cards are very near to the formula of the 5x14 deck (= 56 + 14) or 56 + 22, as everybody knows the Tarot game.

From the Karnoeffel game we do know from later sources, that it developed Insider names for normal cards: One, the 6 of heart was called Pope, another Karnoeffel, a third was the Devil and there are also 4 Kaisers, which means Emperors, occasionally there were not 4 Kaisers but only one plus "Oberstecher, Unterstecher and Farbenstecher". Names and figures, which we partly do know from the Tarot game. The Karnoeffel knows only 7 special figures, in the Ferrarese account book appears the number 8, but our incomplete rules-informations from 15th century (2 sources are of some value) also present contradictions, Karnoeffel probably soon developed modifications in the rules, so probably one figure dropped out of the Karnöffel-game or the Florence Imperatori version invented an 8th card, so probably this is not a contradiction.

It should be clear from the context, that ... probably ... Imperatori deck and Karnoeffel are not the same, but have the origin in common, otherwise the identity in name would be a crazy accident.

And why ... so might ask a sceptical reader ...

... let's see, it's late here, the follow up I tell you in night 1002 ...

slowly growing, but steadily, not ready of course, autorbis' works about the Imperatori deck, see:

http://trionfi.com/01/c/
 

Eberhard

Huck, this new track looks pretty interesting.

However, the link given only shows a "Page is under development"
 

jmd

Again, thanks for the link and the information...

Huck, could 'raxa' be resin? In both the context and the various pronounciations of early usage of 'x' it may indicate a resinous substance.

Eberhard, click on the links on the left of the page... the files to this area seem there.
 

Huck

jmd said:
Again, thanks for the link and the information...

Huck, could 'raxa' be resin? In both the context and the various pronounciations of early usage of 'x' it may indicate a resinous substance.

Eberhard, click on the links on the left of the page... the files to this area seem there.

Ross will answer surely, he's the translator. We do know only the text in printed form, the original is of course handwritten and difficult to read, so errors in the transcription can't be excluded.
 

jmd

...just to add to my previous post, trying to find what I was looking for in terms of 'rasa' and 'resin', here is a link which suggests what I was looking for:
  • 'Literally Rasa means liquid, juice or sap. The rasa of a pine tree is its resin, and lime juice is rasa of a lime.'
 

Eberhard

thanks for the hint, Jean-Michel.

As to the word raxa, I found this link. Then I asked my Italian colleague at the next desk and she also thinks this is kind of a rough cloth (like canvas) which would fit into the context because paint was mentioned before.
 

Ross G Caldwell

Thanks very much Jean-Michel and Eberhard, for suggesting translations for raxa.

The context is some kind of dispenser for ink in printing, and I really don't know how it works. Both a kind of resin as a fixative for the ink, or a kind of cloth (silk-screen like process?) might make sense.

Ross
 

Huck

Before the Imperatori deck

My last letter ended:

"It should be clear from the context, that ... probably ... Imperatori deck and Karnoeffel are not the same, but have the origin in common, otherwise the identity in name would be a crazy accident."

Imperatori-deck are noted in Italy (1423)
Karnoeffel or Keyserspiel are noted in Germany (1426)

Between Italy and Germany, although not very far from each other, are huge mountains, the Alps. The huge mountains guaranteed, that not too much people took the dangerous enterprise to cross them. So Italians had their playing cards and their games, and Germans had their playing card and their games.
But ... in 1414 - 1418 a big event took place, probably the biggest publicly event in 15th century and that was the council of Constance, located between Suisse and Germany nowadays. 100 000s of people attended it, between them, as it was a matter of the church, many, many Italians.

Of course, mostly men.

Italy had, as far we can perceive it, strong playing card prohibitions, Germany, which was famous as region of the early playing card production of course not. Also there were much more sexual freedom in Germany than in Italy at this time, which is for instance noted by the later Pope Pius II., who was before not a pope and didn't behave like one. ...
So all this many Italian men were not unhappy in Constance, there were 100s and 1000s of prostitutes. And of course, there were much free time and of course there were many playing cards, which were - more or less - strongly prohibited in Italy, and of course "Constancely" enough others to play cards with.

What would you say, knowing about this background in time, where one should search the common origin of Karnoeffel (or Keyserspiel) and Imperatori deck?

No, we've no document about playing cards during the council.

The police also doesn't know, how many joints are smoked each day.

So you've a rough line of Tarot development:

1414 - 1418: Council of Constance, international exchange of playing card informations
http://trionfi.com/0/c/04 article-link: Council of Constance

1423: First note about Imperatori-decks - in Italy; 8 special cards
http://trionfi.com/0/c/02 article-link: Imperatori-decks (Ferrara)

1426: First note about the Karnoeffel-game; it knows "special figures" only as name, not as additional cards - in Germany.
http://trionfi.com/0/c/03 article link: Karnoeffel

1441: A first sign of the 5x14-deck
http://trionfi.com/0/2/0b article-link: document B

1442: A first note of the name Trionfi, probably relating to the 5x14-deck
http://trionfi.com/0/e/01 article-link: document 1

after 1450: a relatively sure sign of the 5x14-deck (Bembo-cards)
http://trionfi.com/0/f/11/

1457: a definitely sure sign of the 5x14 deck
http://trionfi.com/0/e/16 article-link: document 16

Later or much later (earlist estimated date: 1460, latest possible date 1494): The Boiardo poem with 22 trumps, but rather unusual, also the Sola Busca (probably 1491), also unusual, also 22 trumps
- these are, as far we know it, the first sure signs of a 22 in connection to Tarotcards
http://trionfi.com/0/h/ (article Boiardo)

Strong prohibition in Italy: Compare:
http://trionfi.com/0/p/05/ article: Prohibitions in Florence

Huck
 

Huck

well, Eberhard ...

... you see, the theme Imperatori is of some importance.

Of course also the region of Constance and perhaps some of the special conditions of the Suisse/southern Germany region.

We've a note from Bern 1367 and it's the earliest date for playing cards - it's worth is doubted. Cause a lot of persons think it too early.
We've notes about German soldiers bringing with them the cards of Italy and the worth of the information is doubted.

We've a note from Würzburg 1329 and the worth is doubted.

We've playing cards in China very early and that's not doubted.

We've in 1230-1241 Persia conquered by the Mongols

1236 they are at the Wolga.

1237 southern Russia is subjugated, Poland has to suffer. (1240/1241)

1241, 9th of April: A big battle is lost by a German/Polish army in Liegnitz. Liegnitz is about 150 km distance to Prag and 150 km to Dresden. 150 km is no distance, when one came all the way long from China or Mongolei. The German Emeror is at that time in Italy ... that's a little far off.

Then they went to Hungary.

At the 11th of December 1241 the death of the Great Chan Ügedei ends the militaric operations, the Mongols return back for voting a new Chan.

The interest to conquer Europe was in 1246-48 still very great, but again an important leader died. Then the interest turns more to the East.

In 1253 again it is tried to conquer the world. Opponents: China and Persia.

1279 China is totally conquered.

1275 - 1292 Marco Polo is there. Doesn't he mention playing cards? Probably not.

Did the Mongols already know about playing cards, when fighting 1241 in Liegnitz? Probably not. They hadn't conquered China. But one can't exclude it. They already had conquered north of China under Ügedei 1231 - 1234.
They were soldiers, soldiers have much free time for wild games.

Did the Mongols had any motivation to tell anybody in Europe about playing cards? Probably not, but one can't exclude it.

And if they did? Then there was no paper to produce playing cards. But perhaps a similar material?

Johannes of Rheinfelden in 1377 tells about playing cards in Freiburg in a way, that all playing card research gets doubts, if this could have happened so early, short after the earliest distribution of playing cards around 1370.
The children play it in the streets, playing cards are everwhere, Johannes knows various different forms of decks. And Johannes is very positive about cards, when in the same year in Florence the first prohibition is issued.

Playing card research found a "solution" for the problem: The manuscript was forged in 1429.

However, Arne Jönssen, the last researcher about the Johannes-manuscript, comes to the conclusion, that it is not a forgery, it looks like an original - from 1377.

If playing cards entered Europe via Spain and Italy from the Mamelucks, it is logical, that production is done there first. But the main early production location seems to have been southern Germany, not Italy, not Spain. Although Spain had paper very early and Italy in 1276, Germany started late with paper in 1390, AFTER playing card production, but having paper before as import-article (probably Italy).
And a friendly German view on playing cards (Johannes) meets a prohibition in Florence in the year 1377. And a Germany prohibition in Nürnberg in 1380 is very harmless - in comparition to the Italian customs.
Whatever this means, ... it's curious.

Normally import-export business at that time should have run from south to north. Spain and Italy had the better connections to the better developed Arabian countries. Italy had great cities, Germany only small. Cultural products should have gone from South to North. But playing cards were exported from Germany - despite logical expection.

Well ... "Kanjifah" - that's Persian originally, it's said. In Persia were also Mongols - at the right time. The Mamelucks has playing cards in around 1300. Kan-Ji-Fah ... sounds a little Chinese. In China a term Khan-hu in relation to playing cards is known. But it were Mongols, which were here, not Chinese

Also curious: Johannes describes something, which is similar to the Hofämterspiel (this was not viewable in all articles, that I did read to the Johannes manuscript, but Arne Jönssen notes it.
A 60 cards game with 5 courts and 10 numbers per suits and the numbers were professions. Such a game is difficult to design, more difficult than a Trionfi game. Johannes knows it - according to Arne Jönssen - already in 1377! That version, that we know, is dated to 1455.

http://jducoeur.org/game-hist/seaan-cardhist.html

http://www.ahs.uwaterloo.ca/~museum/Archive/Wilkinson/Wilkinson.html

Hofämter: http://trionfi.com/m/d0yyyy.php?decknr=0361

Imperatori: http://trionfi.com/0/c/