Winged Knights

Scion

kwaw said:
The 22 stars 'bryhte to the syhte' are the 15 fixed Behenian that Gower names as Aldeboran, Clota or the Pliades, Algol, Alhaiot, Canis Major, Canis Minor, Arial, Ala Corvi, Alaezel, Almareth, Venenas, Alpheta, Cor Scorpionis, Botercadent, Tail of Scorpio; and the 7 wandering [ie, the seven traditional planets].
Kwaw
Kwaw!
Once again I stumble across an enlightening post specifically germane to something I'm writing on deadline. Many many thanks for posting so much of the Gower. :thumbsup: I'm off to find a copy of the Confessio immediately.

I owe you about 150 pints one of these days...

Scion
 

kwaw

Scion said:
Kwaw!
I'm off to find a copy of the Confessio immediately.

Scion

Its available online (free etext) from project Gutenberg here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/266

The astronomical section appears in book seven and there are some very useful and extensive notes here:

www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/cav3b7nts.htm

For notes to other sections change the number 7 in address to book number, eg, address for notes to book 6:

www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/cav3b6nts.htm

Kwaw
 

kwaw

kwaw said:
The 22 stars 'bryhte to the syhte' are the 15 fixed Behenian that Gower names as Aldeboran, Clota or the Pliades, Algol, Alhaiot, Canis Major, Canis Minor, Arial, Ala Corvi, Alaezel, Almareth, Venenas, Alpheta, Cor Scorpionis, Botercadent, Tail of Scorpio; and the 7 wandering [ie, the seven traditional planets].

Kwaw

I have labelled what I think are the 15 on the rete of this Hebrew inscribed astolabe from Spain c.1400:

HebrewAstrolabelABELLED.jpg


I am not 100% sure about all of these so if anyone knows better please feel free to correct. Some of the Hebrew names are transliteration of the arabic, for example ?DBRAN = aldabaran (the ? is for a character I am not familiar with, I think it may be a single symbol for the two letter 'AL', it appears at the front and end of the name on the star pointer that by its position I judge to refer to Spica for example, which would give AL-AOZ-AL, that I take as a transliteration of one of the names for Spica, Alaazal); others are titles in Hebrew, for example ZNB HGDI = Tail of the Goat, which I think by its position is Deneb Algedi; LB HOQYB = Heart of the Scorpion, Antares; Polaris is an exception in that it is called ZNB HChLB, Tail of the Dog, hebrew translation for the rarely used Greek name for the North Star [cynosura]; the Hebrew name for Sirius means the crosser, the crossroads or travellor, refering perhaps to the myth of the dog who crossed the river [sirius crossing the river of the milky way), the other being unable to [procyus the weeper).

Kwaw
 

Scion

Juicier and juicier, Kwaw.

It occurs to me that we're fairly far afield from Winged Knights at this point, so I'm going to open a separate thread to discuss this, if you don't mind, and pasting in the above your post w/ astrolabe to get us underway. I would love to pick your brain on this topic. :)

Scion