ravenest
Hi RW, ummmm .... I was oulining an illogical reason behind an illogical belief (IMO). That was their justificaion, not mine. I 'read again' looooong ago
Tarot prejudice.
Hi RW, ummmm .... I was oulining an illogical reason behind an illogical belief (IMO). That was their justificaion, not mine. I 'read again' looooong ago
DownUnderNZer
Must say I have never personally come across people devoutly set against the tarot here or any such divination even when Im studying at my fave cafe with a new deck or reading up on things etc. So, everything is out on the table, and in the open. And that is the best place to get all sorts... (I will put things away when this Jehovah Witness lady is there though as I like her and we chat).
My family are quite cool too. However, I think my father would have happily put me on a wood pyre and lit the match if he ever found out I dabbled in such things, ironic really as he was really intuituve and had great insight into futuristic things and people only didnt see it like that.
Very religious yet his abilities were not bound to the bible at all. But boy oh boy if anyone ever said different!!!
It is true that tarot isnt a religion, so Im not sure why some would be so opposed. Wonder what it is that is really feared...
My family are quite cool too. However, I think my father would have happily put me on a wood pyre and lit the match if he ever found out I dabbled in such things, ironic really as he was really intuituve and had great insight into futuristic things and people only didnt see it like that.
Very religious yet his abilities were not bound to the bible at all. But boy oh boy if anyone ever said different!!!
It is true that tarot isnt a religion, so Im not sure why some would be so opposed. Wonder what it is that is really feared...
jackdaw*
I'm a Christian, or at least I try to be. And I've never run into opposition about reading the Tarot. Mind you, I am selective about who I share that information with, but I'm much more likely to get flak from people who think that I believe in "such foolishness" than for being hellbound or anything.
And I agree about the Tarot not being a religion. If you choose to use it as such, it may form a part of your own personal belief system - a tool, if you will. But rosary beads can be a tool of your faith, or looped around the wrist to make a pretty bracelet. A Bible can be a tool of your faith, or a book full of great stories of smiting and fantastic occurrences. An athame can be a tool of your faith, or a knife to butter your toast. And a deck of cards can be a tool of your faith, or a bunch of pretty pictures printed on cardboard. And for me, they fall more into the latter category.
Happy Easter!
And I agree about the Tarot not being a religion. If you choose to use it as such, it may form a part of your own personal belief system - a tool, if you will. But rosary beads can be a tool of your faith, or looped around the wrist to make a pretty bracelet. A Bible can be a tool of your faith, or a book full of great stories of smiting and fantastic occurrences. An athame can be a tool of your faith, or a knife to butter your toast. And a deck of cards can be a tool of your faith, or a bunch of pretty pictures printed on cardboard. And for me, they fall more into the latter category.
Happy Easter!
novenovembre
scorn
I've met more or less open disapproval from people more than once when I told them I read tarot, so I'm very careful now about choosing who I share this info with.
I shared a flat with a guy from Southern Italy once, years ago, who, despite his most un-catholic behaviour in all areas of his life, clearly told me one day that he didn't want any tarot decks in the house where he lived (I had about ten....). Although that is also, in my view, motivated by fear, superstition, and things that have nothing to do with religious faith, catholicism has certainly contributed hugely to the prejudice against cards in general.....A priest once told a woman I know, who read cards, that she would go straight to hell if she didn't give up-and she was so scared that she did give up.
Atheists tend to be very scornful of these things. I was told once by someone that it was unbelievable that an intelligent woman such as myself believed in this crap-implying that maybe I wasn't so intelligent after all. I'll never forget his look.
I've met more or less open disapproval from people more than once when I told them I read tarot, so I'm very careful now about choosing who I share this info with.
I shared a flat with a guy from Southern Italy once, years ago, who, despite his most un-catholic behaviour in all areas of his life, clearly told me one day that he didn't want any tarot decks in the house where he lived (I had about ten....). Although that is also, in my view, motivated by fear, superstition, and things that have nothing to do with religious faith, catholicism has certainly contributed hugely to the prejudice against cards in general.....A priest once told a woman I know, who read cards, that she would go straight to hell if she didn't give up-and she was so scared that she did give up.
Atheists tend to be very scornful of these things. I was told once by someone that it was unbelievable that an intelligent woman such as myself believed in this crap-implying that maybe I wasn't so intelligent after all. I'll never forget his look.
MagsStardustBlack
Yes Alta my friend is lovely and as I said politely declined, she is actually one of the kindest sweetest people I know and has been a huge support to me. I dont judge her and accept her point. She was actually worried that she offended me but i assured her that she hadn't. It just got me thinking there after about the implications. Iv never experienced that before. My mum is Catholic and also believes in tarot. However thinking back my mother in law is a nut job, we have a bad history. I recal she called me a 'black witch' one time - she is strictly Roman Catholic and bonkers on the side. All my other friends are either fascinated, interested or not bothered. ...
tarotbear
There aren't that many posts yet (and some have been deleted) but who said or implied that Tarot IS a religion? This aspect of the discussion escaped me somewhere.
novenovembre
evil tarot
The Catholic church claims that tarot is evil not because it lies or because it's impossible to see the future, but on the contrary, because it is possible, but that ability comes from the devil-only God is supposed to know the future-and obviously, the devil.
The Catholic church claims that tarot is evil not because it lies or because it's impossible to see the future, but on the contrary, because it is possible, but that ability comes from the devil-only God is supposed to know the future-and obviously, the devil.
novenovembre
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I don't mean to be rude, but if that's what you believe, that tarot is only " a bunch of pretty pictures printed on carboard ", what are you doing in this forum ? And, most importantly, what do you do with your tarot deck of pretty pictures ? Just enjoy looking at it, or frame it and hang it on the wall as decoration for the house ?
I don't mean to be rude, but if that's what you believe, that tarot is only " a bunch of pretty pictures printed on carboard ", what are you doing in this forum ? And, most importantly, what do you do with your tarot deck of pretty pictures ? Just enjoy looking at it, or frame it and hang it on the wall as decoration for the house ?
gregory
A "bunch of pretty pictures printed on cardboard" can still be used to deliver messages. JD is an excellent reader, and a sterling forum member. But tarot is not a religion - as many have said - and does not need or have the trappings of one; nor is it "magic" in the sense that rites and invocations are needed. Images are used to trigger meaning. That isn't an "only", nor is it an article of faith. I do not "believe in the cards". I do believe that they can be used to deliver important messages. How they work I have no idea - but - it seems to happen through a bunch of pretty pictures printed on cardboard" ....
@ TB - I mention religion here as something that tarot is NOT. But those religious people who object and see it as in CONFLICT with religion almost imply that it is a sort of anti-religion - which kind of makes it a religion, to them...
Zephyros
That's actually another prejudice. Faith is not inherent to Tarot, neither in its meditative use nor in its predictive one. I certainly don't "believe" in Tarot as I don't find anything to believe in; I use it to meditate on the Qabalistic Tree of Life and associated ideas, although I don't have what you may call "belief" in those things either. There are people on the forum who believe predictive Tarot has a scientific reason having to do with electromagnetic fields. Me, I have a slightly convoluted explanation I won't go into here, but you will find as many opinions as there are members, each one "right."
If you mean faith in the readings you receive, I an staunchly in favor of doubting everything, especially Tarot. While anyone may try to free themselves of preconceptions and biases, any reading is ultimately as fallible as the reader. Even if one believes spirit guides, God or anything else is speaking through the cards, the interpretations are ultimately their own, and I would caution against blind certainty.
Of course, this brings up in-Tarot misconceptions and prejudices, but that's probably off-topic.
