What do you desire in deck creation?

gregory

Oops forget it. Tarot decks have 78 cards. My bad :|
 

gregory

:bugeyed:

Heads up for non-US buyers (and a question for the bosses at TGC.)

I just took delivery of a nicely packaged appropriately sized parcel containing several decks. Four I like, one I don't.... but that's an 80% success rate !

I'm not doing that again in a hurry. OUCH.

OK there is no actual DUTY, but the import VAT was - not fun - and the £8 the post office adds on for collecting that VAT is - iniquitous (they don't have to DO anything much, just send a card demanding cash; the rest is done on line... the delivery is the same whether I have to pay or not.) Given the level of value that excites customs, I don't choose to take the risk again (oddly it hasn't happened before, even though I have once technically been over the limit with one deck from there, and was expecting a bill.)

However this has suddenly raised a question for me. What about sales taxes. Do non-US buyers end up paying twice ? A lot of the sites I go to, if you are outside the US (and I believe out of state in some cases) you don't pay the taxes, as you have to pay them in your own location on importing. There's a box saying where are you and then that kicks in... Can someone from TGC please clarify ?

ETA and PLEASE can you have a search function in help ???
 

garmonbozia

Just read this whole thread. Some good changes have been made. Thank you!

I like that there is a separate tarot section.
It used to be a pain to search through the site for tarot and lenormand decks as searching by those words would give you 12-20 pages of random stuff that had nothing to do with either with a couple dozen or so relevant things scattered throughout. The search results contained a lot of duplicates as well, which made things even more confusing as many decks/games do have multiple different versions, so I could never tell if I was finding another version or a duplicate listing.

I love the fact that customers can buy game parts on your website. Whenever I buy a deck of cards from your site I always add on something or other I need, usually blank tuck boxes. I particularly love those clear tuck boxes you have. Do you now allow game designers to publish a deck with one of those boxes? I remember designers having an issue with that in the past.

For example, if someone created a Lenormand deck (usually 36 cards) but didn't want to design a tuckbox to have printed with the deck, can they add one of the clear tuckboxes to the game and have it published this way?

The clear plastic 41-card size tuck box is awesome for poker-sized lenormand decks. I've used these for many decks I have that came without boxes, or for decks that came with extra cards that I want to keep separate from the main deck. In a perfect world, these would be available in tarot-sized boxes as well.

However, it is very disappointing that I cannot buy the blank tarot-sized boxes from you. This would be incredibly awesome. Unlike most people on this site, I absolutely detest keeping cards in bags. Bags are not good for cards. They do not protect them well, they allow cards to move around too much and get the edges dented and frayed. To me, cards belong in boxes, and I have spent countless hours trying to find appropriate sized cardboard boxes to keep decks in that came without a box. Everything I find is either too small, or too big (which creates storage issues). I have asked your customer service about buying them in the past only to be told "sorry, we don't sell them". This doesn't make sense to me since all the blank poker boxes are available for sale (and I have bought many of those as well). Would you consider adding these to your game piece store? What about the new small pro boxes? (since the medium and large are available there).


Instead of releasing a jumbo tuck box, we produced an even better box which we call the small pro box.

You can read about it here: http://news.thegamecrafter.com/post/39660974558/say-hello-to-the-small-pro-box-this-is-a-new-line

These wouldn't hold a jumbo tarot deck though, would they? It seems from the discussion on that site, they are only thick enough for 64 jumbo cards?
 

tarotbear

Hello!

I thought I would add this - on TGC I posed a question if I could produce a Tarot deck that was only shrink wrapped and NOT boxed.

I asked:
If someone is publishing a game (which has a game box) and it has decks of cards that go with it - those cards must be in a box within the game box? Just asking!

When customers order someone's (any kind of) deck of cards - it comes in a box - is that box shrink-wrapped, or the cards within that box shrink-wrapped?

TGC replied:
No, cards are not required to be in a tuck box without a game box. I was simply stating that you must have a box in your game that can hold all of the components in order to publish.

The game box or tuck box will be shrink-wrapped. Cards are not shrink-wrapped. If they are being placed in a large box, they will be put into plastic baggies prior to being placed in the box. Cards are put directly into tuck boxes with no baggies.

No where do I find on TGC anything about putting cards in (cloth) bags (which someone mentioned to me) - which I gather they once did. Didn't they wrap the cards before putting them in cloth bags?

Things are still evolving at TGC ...
 

Mallah

I've decided to use them, after looking at the alternative you pm'd me about, tarotbear.

The tuck boxes are for 90 cards...I assume to accomodate for a booklet. I'm NOT going to do a booklet thru them, I just can't imagine dealing with the nightmare of formatting that, and counting my words to get it all in...instead, I'll have a downloadable pdf that will be as long as I want without worrying about space!
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But with that extra space, i'm scheming up things to do with 12 extra cards...without doing more art...really really don't want to do more art...but I could put contact information on one of them, for example...tell people where to go to get the pdf...I could have a little teaser for the big book that will come in a couple years...maybe some jokes or something...maybe I'll have 12 astrological sigils...as significators...just to take up the room in the box so the cards aren't rattling around.
 

gregory

I've bought two decks in bags and no boxes from TGC. One was simply sent in a bag in a mailing box; I can't swear to the other; my database is silent and I haven't the deck with me. There was also the Iowan's - in a bag in a game box (because of the spread sheet thing) - not in shrink wrap in a box. This is all rather strange ?.

But TB seems to be right - I can't find the bag option on the site any more at all (curiosity led me to look as it was my suggestion he try there in the first place :( )
 

tarotbear

Obviously, things are still evolving at TGC - so let us hope it's all for the better!

Hal - The 12 astrological sigils ... could be interesting.

I may break down and create a 'document' (as opposed to a booklet - which sounds pretty involved!), but I can have that as a PDF to download. After all, I did say somewhere to someone that there is no LWB with my deck - men do not read instructions, anyway! LOL!!!! I would suspect that people who have my book would be more prone to buy the deck than just the average non-person off the street; the average card reader would have no problem with the RWS-based imagery.

Right now am finding out exactly how to get the cards in a specific order since they are random in the box and I would like my title card to be first and the bio card to be last. I need to find out what 'include that in your instructions' means - what instructions? Where?
 

Zephyros

I don't know if this has been suggested, but is there any way to implement purchase of single cards, should any get lost? This could be a service to members, available only if one's history showed purchase of the complete deck previously. The biggest problem with indie decks is that if you lose a card, sometimes there isn't anything to do, no one to turn to, unlike big publishers like USG with whom there is at least someone to talk to, and I've heard of people who had replacement cards sent to them.
 

tarotbear

I would doubt it would be cost effective for a company like TGC to print a single indie card up ...
 

gregory

Starlightexpress seems to buy a few extras for himself and provide the service that way. I'm with TB - I really don't see how they could do that. They are VERY automated.