another vent about a professional reader I've run into.

SunChariot

I don't know if you remember when I had a little vent a few months back about this psychic reader who I felt was using unscrupulous methods to try and get me to be a client...which of course did not work.

Now suddenly she had produced a newletter which I have received without asking for in which she states:
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"The question then is: “Are psychics also psychologists?”

Here’s my answer: “We’re not psychologists, but we do practice psychology!” I could even say that what we do is better than psychology!

Psychologists analyze people according to certain scales, codes they learn while in school, or which they acquire later on, while working at a company, a government agency, etc.

Psychologists don’t try to find out who you are. They only want to know if you correspond to what they believe is normal. If you don’t meet their criteria, they try to change your attitudes and your behavior. What they never try to do is make you be yourself!

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A psychologist really has no idea who you are

I don’t only get one vision about you, I get many at the same time, depending on the lives that are being offered to you at any given moment.

That’s the difference between a psychic and a psychologist. A psychologist has no idea who you are, while I can read you like an open book!"
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Ok does that seem wrong to you too to claim to tell people they don't ever need professional help, even if you are psychic? And that all they need is you. Aren't we supposed to refer people with medical or legal problems to specialists. And someone who might need a psychologist, like a depressed person, need medical treatment.

First of all most of what she says about psychologists seems untrue and even if we are psychic can any reader really claim that they are better that psychologists and all you need is them. I mean there have to be people who truly do need professional treatment. That sounds dangerous to me, not to mention conceited to pass that message around.

This woman annoys me(sigh)

Babs
 

Grizabella

Of course this person wants to convince people, especially disturbed, gullible and emotionally needy people, that he/she's all they need, so this is aimed especially at the very kind of people who will be most susceptible to become dependent on her/him. There are many people in counseling who would rather not be in counseling or labeled as being mentally ill and they'd be very susceptible to turning to a person of this kind. Not all of them, but some.

This is the ploy, also, of abusive men. They work on convincing you they're all you need and isolating you from others. They want you totally dependent on them.

"I can read you like an open book!" Yeah, I'll just bet he/she can!

I read cards, I don't read people, and that's the difference there.
 

SunChariot

Grizabella said:
"I can read you like an open book!" Yeah, I'll just bet he/she can!

I read cards, I don't read people, and that's the difference there.

She goes on and on in the newsletter too about how she can read me like an open book and she knows the querent's question before they even ask it (BUT that she makes them verbalize it as that is good for them.):rolleyes:

All I can think of is that if she knows what I am thinking and can read my like a book why does she keep e-mailing me and why doesn't she know then what I think of her and her tactics and that she is NEVER going to get me a as client? If she could read my like a book, she would know that. (sigh)

Babs
 

Sinduction

Not every person is a good person.
 

shelikes2read

I honestly hope that "reader" doesn't hook anyone into becoming dependent on readings, when what they actually need is professional help from a doctor, psychologist, or other medically trained person. I can't understand how someone could offer that kind of faux "guidance" to a person in genuine need and live with themselves. The cliche "How do they sleep?" springs to mind.

I wish the people who would rather create a dependence in their clients than actually help them would get seen for what they are. The comparison to the behavior of an abuser is spot on. That's exactly what a person who tries to create a dependence is doing to their client... abusing them. Just thinking about it makes me angry.
 

SunChariot

Me too, trying to talk someone out of believing they need treatment if they do is beyond wrong.

Babs
 

thorhammer

Babs, can you report this woman? Is her definition of therapy and how she approaches her work possibly on the wrong side of the almost illegal? It seems that she's not one that you especially, being in the vicinity, and Tarot readers as a general rule, really would want putting herself out there as a representative of the art.

\m/ Kat
 

SunChariot

thorhammer said:
Babs, can you report this woman? Is her definition of therapy and how she approaches her work possibly on the wrong side of the almost illegal? It seems that she's not one that you especially, being in the vicinity, and Tarot readers as a general rule, really would want putting herself out there as a representative of the art.

\m/ Kat
All I have is her e-mail address. I wouldn't even know what country she lives in. I don't know who to report it to, but it might be a good idea.

It seems to me that people could get hurt. I am sure it is illegal now that you mention it. I know by law on my web site I have to say that readings are not meant to ever replace legal or medical or professional advice. I know it is I have to use those words on my site...

Babs
 

thorhammer

SunChariot said:
All I have is her e-mail address. I wouldn't even know what country she lives in. I don't know who to report it to, but it might be a good idea.

It seems to me that people could get hurt. I am sure it is illegal now that you mention it. I know by law on my web site I have to say that readings are not meant to ever replace legal or medical or professional advice. I know it is I have to use those words on my site...

Babs
Ah . . . it could be that it's not illegal where she is. It would be very difficult for anyone to pursue it if you don't know where she is. That's unfortunate.

Maybe a cluey puter friend could get an IP address for you? I don't know if that's possible, but it could be a start.

\m/ Kat