Decanates and harmonics

[Maggiemay]

Hi...It's me...again

Are decanates and harmonics valid enough to be used while studying a chart?

Eg : My ascendant is 7d. Pisces. I read that the first 10 degrees of pisces have a special ''tie'' to Neptune, whereas the next 10 degrees are linked to cancer ( the moon) and the last 10 to scorpio.

Any of you pay attention to this when studying a chart?

What about harmonics? I am mostly interested in the quintile.

Reason : I do not have many trines and sextiles in my chart. However I could see a few quintiles that look interesting.

To be honest... I don't feel the effect of those quintiles in my day to day life... And anyways, aren't quintiles an energy one has to work to bring out?

Very curious to hear what some of you might say,

Maggie

 

[cardlady22]

Dane Rudhyar's An Astrological Mandala talks about looking at the 5 points that come up within the 360. I can't remember if this was directly from his suggestion, or a note I made to myself, but I have

Pentarhythmic Degree Chart-
your birthdate/chart degree is at the single point of the star (upright or inverted)

360 72 144 216 288
359 71 143 215 287
358 70 142 214 286
357 69 141 213 285
356 68 140 212 284
355 67 139 211 283
354 66 138 210 282
353 65 137 209 281
352 64 136 208 280
351 63 135 207 279
350 62 134 206 278
349 61 133 205 277
348 60 132 204 276
347 59 131 203 275
346 58 130 202 274
345 57 129 201 273
344 56 128 200 272
343 55 127 199 271
342 54 126 198 270
341 53 125 197 269
340 52 124 196 268
339 51 123 195 267
338 50 122 194 266
337 49 121 193 265
336 48 120 192 264
335 47 119 191 263
334 46 118 190 262
333 45 117 189 261
332 44 116 188 260
331 43 115 187 259
330 42 114 186 258
329 41 113 185 257
328 40 112 184 256
327 39 111 183 255
326 38 110 182 254
325 37 109 181 253
324 36 108 180 252
323 35 107 179 251
322 34 106 178 250
321 33 105 177 249
320 32 104 176 248
319 31 103 175 247
318 30 102 174 246
317 29 101 173 245
316 28 100 172 244
315 27 99 171 243
314 26 98 170 242
313 25 97 169 241
312 24 96 168 240
311 23 95 167 239
310 22 94 166 238
309 21 93 165 237
308 20 92 164 236
307 19 91 163 235
306 18 90 162 234
305 17 89 161 233
304 16 88 160 232
303 15 87 159 231
302 14 86 158 230
301 13 85 157 229
300 12 84 156 228
299 11 83 155 227
298 10 82 154 226
297 9 81 153 225
296 8 80 152 224
295 7 79 151 223
294 6 78 150 222
293 5 77 149 221
292 4 76 148 220
291 3 75 147 219
290 2 74 146 218
289 1 73 145 217

 

[Maggiemay]

Dane Rudhyar's An Astrological Mandala talks about looking at the 5 points that come up within the 360.

your birthdate/chart degree is at the single point of the star (upright or inverted)

Well, this sounds really interesting but I am not sure I understand what to do exactly...

How would go about it? Do I start counting the 5 points from my sun position?

Thanks,

Maggie

 

[cardlady22]

quintile

Well, one of the things I'm playing with is to get the degree for a planet or point in the chart and then look up those 4 associated degrees and any symbolic correspondences.

Let's say you have Mercury at 29Ari29; you would round to Aries 30
318 30 102 174 246

You set up your "star" with the 30 at the single point and fill in around the other points.

You could play with the way different traditions assign elements to the points, etc. They even have patterns of how to draw your pentacle, so you could try following those, too!

I like using Marina Costelloe's assigned gemstones too!

Aries 30 (30) A pond, a duck and ducklings ~ rainforest jasper (rhyolite)
Cancer 12 (102) A Chinese woman nursing a baby with a message ~ Chinese writing stone (porphyry)
Virgo 24 (174) Mary and her white lamb ~ gypsum
Sagittarius 6 (246) A game of cricket ~ blue aventurine
Aquarius 18 (318) A man unmasked ~ tourmalinated quartz

Pretty wild, huh? Mercury is messages, childhood, learning, communication.
Mercury in Aries is associated with quick answers, mental competition

 

[Minderwiz]

I'm not sure how much you really know. You seem to be throwing out issues like a scatter gun. Take one thing at a time and develop your knowledge of that. However first ensure that you are fully familiar with the basics.

For Harmonics, the classic text is that by John Addey. Dane Rudhyar, as mentioned above, is also well worth reading.

Decantes date from Egyptian times, and come down in Western tradition, through the Greek Faces. There are now a number of ways of ordering them and indeed using them. Again I tend not to use anything but the Faces, and even then, as per tradition, I don't place a lot of weight on them. Others may well do though.

 

[Maggiemay]

Pretty wild, huh? Mercury is messages, childhood, learning, communication.
Mercury in Aries is associated with quick answers, mental competition

Sounds great but I am not there yet...lol

Thank you,

Maggie : )

 

[Maggiemay]

I'm not sure how much you really know. You seem to be throwing out issues like a scatter gun.

So many questions, so little time!

Maggie

 

[cardlady22]

Sounds great but I am not there yet...lol

Thank you,

Maggie : )

So that Tarastrology book might be pretty tough, huh?

 

[Maggiemay]

So that Tarastrology book might be pretty tough, huh?

Ah hah!! I remember you from that thread...

Actually, it was silverwings94 that ordered the book and was supposed to give us some feedback.... ( Apparently the concept is interesting..but the book itself not so much)



Maggie

 

[Bernice]

I agree with the suggestion by Minderwiz, John Addy is almost a mandatory read for Harmonics. There are a number of 'harmonic' books by other authors, but I would advise you read him first. However in the end, it's up to you.

Bee