You know what? Take it down and within a few years there will be similar one. Leave it and let the critiques deal with it and then this probability won't be that high. People should be taught not only what the definition of "good" is, but what the definition of "bad" is. They should see so they can know in the future what is appropriate and what's not. Why do you want that chance taken away from people - For exaple future buyers who think the art is cute and they don't know what the is the deck really about? What about future deck creators who would have gotten similar idea? Do they have to make the art, publish it here and see this whole story repeating itself again with slight variations? Of course if they knew from the beginning that someone made similar choice to theirs in the past and how it end up they would consider and perhaps would put the time and effort in something which could be beautiful. I don't think that if we take it down we honour in some way people who have suffered these horrible events. We just makre more space for another horrible deck dedicated to some horrible event or not-so peaceful ideology.
So I am saying "yes" to informed choices.
I really like this response, it gives a detailed positive reason why it should be included, and is not directly critical of those with a different point of view.
It's a shame, but the discussion about this deck is spread over 3 threads... so a little hard to know if everyone is on the same page with what they have read.
I'm not personally offended by the deck, but to give some context I am currently living in Dharamsala, India. For those who are not aware, this is the home of the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan Government in Exile. There are many many Tibeten refugee communities spread throughout India. Tibetans still escape from China on foot over the Himalayas every year. Some are permanently disabled by frostbite, some get shot dead by Chinese soldiers, some manage to make it in one peice, to start a new life as refugees with nothing but their Spiritual freedom in one of the poorest countries in the world. Tibetans inside Tibet are still a very persecuted minority. They are not even allowed to keep a photo of their Spiritual Leader, the Dalai Lama. It is against the law, they will be severely punished if they are found with such a photo.
During the Cultural Revolution the Chinese govenment told the Tibetans that they were being 'liberated'. So clearly people have very different concepts about what is Liberty.....
I have visited Tibet and seen the after effects of the Cultural Revolution there. So being here, surrounded by a Tibetan community, visiting temples and monastreys that they have rebuilt here, but that aren't anything near what was destroyed in Tibet, it was jarring to see a very cutesy deck about the Cultural Revolution....
Then on their Facebook page they proudly announce that they are going to be featured on Aeclectic soon and I felt
. Because I like this site, but of course, I understand it is dedicated to the beauty and DIVERSITY of the tarot. I do understand that.
In the other thread I was wondering if there are any limits, if there are any boundaries about what gets put on here, and where this deck would fit: inside or outside of those boundaries. I was curious, rather than on a mission advocating censorship and repression. I don't advocate censorship and repression, but consideration of what is being presented. So as people say, take your stance, don't buy it. I also wondered if this site sometimes also takes a stance, and doesn't include a deck, for whatever reason.
Over on the other thread I asked if collectors would be adding this to their collection. But I didn't get any replies from collectors about that until this poll started. It seems to have taken this poll to have got more discussion going, but as I said, the discussion is now spread over various threads which is not ideal.
With regards to Freedom of Speech, of course it is hugely important. But I was never questioning if the deck should be created, published, promoted. Only questioning if there are boundaries here on Aeclectic about what gets included and what doesn't.
And I believe that even with 'Freedom of Speech' in the 'Land of the Free' there are exceptions. (e.g. I don't believe Islamic extremists are allowed to freely express their points of view, but please correct me if I am wrong.)
With regards to expressing views about this deck in a review, I have only looked at a few cards very briefly, enough to see that it's cutesy, that's it. There is no way I would want to go through this deck to give a comprehensive review, which I think is required. If I can do a review just based on my feelings about how the subject matter is being handled then that's fine. (If it does end up being on Aeclectic, but as I said, on the creators facebook page they are prouldy reporting that it will be on here...).
With regards to expressing views on Social Media, I thought of posting on the Facebook page for the deck, but then I thought they will just delete what I post and ban me. What's the point. So I decided to come here, to Aeclectic to express about this deck, as I trust that this is a place where people can express their feelings about different decks, no matter what they are. In both other threads I was asking the creator for their side of the story, but so far they have not responded to any of the recent posts on here.
And yes, I agree, from their point of view perhaps it's 'all publicity is good publicity'. But there is this feeling that a dark period of history in that part of the world, that is still very much felt to this day, is being seriously misrepresented. Yes, it's being given the Doreen Virtue treatment if you like, as if the Cultural Revolution was all rainbows and butterflies. It wasn't. I asked the creator how he would feel about presenting his deck to a group of Tibetan people. I am still waiting for a reply.
I also suggested that if his deck is expected to make money he might like to announce that he is donating some share to the Tibetan cause, as a gesture to acknowledge the wider story of the Cultural Revolution.
Where were the great powers of the world advocating the protection of Freedom of Speech and Self-Expression when the freedom of Tibet needed to be protected???
Oh yeah... counting the dollars to be gained from keeping things sweet with China... high principles indeed...
I leave you with a few photos from inside Tibet 2011, enjoy