Dodal dimensions
eltarot78 said:
Hello Bee, as you said, near the end of the year but the Chinese New Year
02/14/10 I have to travel soon to a larger city to find printers that can print larger role, A0 (Ideally) or A1 or A2, Super A3 sheet is very satisfactory to me in connection with the texture, weight and quality, but it gives me a great waste of paper and actually increases costs.
Each time, the closer
Hello again Pablo ElTarot,
Here is below some Forum exchanges I had few weeks ago.
It will feed you about real Dodal originals (British Museum and BnF Paris) dimensions.
And my opinion on this point plus round corners.
Felicitation for your hard job and remenber that I am on your list for a full deck.
Yves le Marseillais
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Originally Posted by Bertrand
Bonjour Yves !
What puzzles me are the overall dimensions from the Schreiber catalogue ; the ratio is over 2 when all other converge around 1.8 - so either the Brittish sample has unusual margins, either the measure was a mistake in the first place ? I feel we should stick to "Tarot, jeu et magie" catalogue dimensions which sounds more accurate.
For inner dimensions, Flornoy's 2009 and Dusserre (following your measurements) share the same ratio of 1.8 once again, which also fits this sample from the BNF (freely accessible) whose rulers' accuracy is unknown :
very roughly 118x64 mm. Everything sounds pretty consistent ! (sorry I blurred the picture not to infringe any copyright)
Margin were not consistent with the time, so we can't know precisely what were the dimensions : cards with a very used margins may have been cropped to all fit in a new smaller dimension. We can't even check, for decks so rare as Dodal, the original and wanted dimension of the cards from the molds as we don't have any sufficient data to make any conclusions. Margin size is anyway a detail that we can approximate and adapt to today's productions constraints.
That being said, having bad eyes, I don't mind if cards are slightly bigger so I don't have to use a magnifying glass.
Bertrand
Bonjour Bertrand,
Thanks for this info... That I did not remenbered !!
Yes this is possible to make some extrapolations of this XII card picture via Photoshop
I made it and by carrefully measuring it on my screen, I was able to find nearly exactly what is mentionned in our BnF source: catalogue Tarot Jeu et Magie 1984.
I founded:
Image size Height: 123.7 mm and (black line to black line) 113.6 mm
Image size Wide: 65.6 mm and (black line to black line) 61.3 mm
On Catalogue 1984 measures are:
Image size Height: 123 mm and (black line to black line) NIL
Image size Wide: 66 mm and (black line to black line) NIL
So, thanks to your help, I am now able to:
Be sure that both Dodal originals (British Museum and BnF Paris) are:
Bigger than Dusserre Dodal.
Smaller than all Flornoy Dodals versions for Height
Smaller than Flornoy Dodal Industrial Version 2009 for Wide.
As I wrote on my previous thread it is really a pitty not to have EXACT restorations (or better said attempts of restoration) and not only for size unfortunatly.
I think about colors i.e Red and Light Blue that I would have prefered more deep for red and less "grey" for Light Blue. On Flornoy Dodal 2009 Full deck.
But "Les Gouts et les Couleurs" as we says in France are variable and I did not saw yet BM and BnF originals to speak too much about colors subject.
I am myopic and use binocles but as you may knows myopic people see much well on closer things and I don't need to increase my Tarot decks up to a Visconti Sforza standard size. Ha ha !!
My hands are Normals sized. As Rafael our "non boxer" tarot amatore.
Re margins, my personnal taste is to get Tarot of Marseille decks NOT rounded as Flornoy Dodal handmade feb 2002 edition for exemple.
This solve problem of increasing margins as to get rounded corners and preserve rectangular symbolic shape of tarot cards.
I have to say that by looking carefully on Dodal size, shape and details, I was very surprised to discover that this deck is NOT a big deck and looks just a little bit bigger than usual Tarot of Marseille decks.
Salutations,
Yves le Marseillais
