Rosanne
Oh Happenstance....well I believe it can be here. In this forum.
...a chance circumstance.
Men with mamluk cards..... meet soldiers whom play cards. They play cards and talk about the journey ahead and their differences. Or do people think soldiers only grunt at each other?
The Soldier looks at the mamluk card and asks..
"what do those scribbles mean?"
and the Eastern gentlemen tells him they are predictions of sorts, lucky talismans, poetic verses......and those are Polo sticks!
The Italian soldier does not know what are Polo sticks, but thinks they look like Batons....
Now we know this happenstance occurred somewhere, because we have reasonable copies of Tarot card suits of mamluk origin painted in Italy. That is History.
So the Italian soldier may have won a mamluk deck and he thinks..we too have poetic verses, stories, Lady Fortuna, etc etc and we can have images that show increasing value from a low value trick to a high value trick.
So the History forum is the place to try and discover if and when these men met, did they exchange ideas, and is there some proof of this meeting. How likely they played cards...or did they have cards? Well 'did they have cards?" has already been answered.
So happenstance has a place here in the History forum.
It is harder to prove the esoteric link.....but I am sure those Eastern Christians would have told the Italians they had their own Pope...
"Tortollini!!! Your own Pope??? (So down the value scale goes the Roman Pope)
~Rosanne
...a chance circumstance.
Men with mamluk cards..... meet soldiers whom play cards. They play cards and talk about the journey ahead and their differences. Or do people think soldiers only grunt at each other?
The Soldier looks at the mamluk card and asks..
"what do those scribbles mean?"
and the Eastern gentlemen tells him they are predictions of sorts, lucky talismans, poetic verses......and those are Polo sticks!
The Italian soldier does not know what are Polo sticks, but thinks they look like Batons....
Now we know this happenstance occurred somewhere, because we have reasonable copies of Tarot card suits of mamluk origin painted in Italy. That is History.
So the Italian soldier may have won a mamluk deck and he thinks..we too have poetic verses, stories, Lady Fortuna, etc etc and we can have images that show increasing value from a low value trick to a high value trick.
So the History forum is the place to try and discover if and when these men met, did they exchange ideas, and is there some proof of this meeting. How likely they played cards...or did they have cards? Well 'did they have cards?" has already been answered.
So happenstance has a place here in the History forum.
It is harder to prove the esoteric link.....but I am sure those Eastern Christians would have told the Italians they had their own Pope...
"Tortollini!!! Your own Pope??? (So down the value scale goes the Roman Pope)
~Rosanne