Ivan Milat - Backpack Killer

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Ivan Milat: Photo One.



With this photo and a friendly smiling face like that, it's no wonder he seemed okay.

To me he looks like a "true blue Aussie bloke" or "bloke bloke".

Yet there is something about his eyes. Its not that they are sinister, but a bit piercing. Just wish there was a better photo with his "eyes" as I believe they really are the window to one's soul.

Here, however, I find him to be confident, a bit full of himself, into his appearance yet not overly vain and in the mirror every 5 mins, a bit mischief or a prankster, comfortable in his environment, hard in some ways, likely into the outdoors.

Also, probably outside a lot with the tan, so not working in an office....or with great reluctance.

Not an easy life with all of the lines around his eyes and forehead I reckon. Been around the block so as to say. But as for being a "killer", other then the piercing eyes, not much to go by.
 

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Ivan Milat

Ivan Milat: Photo 2 (Older).



He really just looks like the "old man next door".

So, I have to say he has hidden his true colors rather well really.

It did cross my mind with the first photo - is there a possibility they got the wrong man?

Smiling as a young man and even as an old man yet nothing to really "creep" anyone out except his eyes are a bit piercing like they can see right through a person.

And that is what bothers me - his eyes.

Focusing more I feel Milat had and has the ability to see through people and is capable of summing someone up at a glance. It is not that he has a high IQ or a totally brilliant mind (although I do think he has to be smart to have left no clues in the forest even if he kept trophies it seems), but he is perceptive, not stupid, and one step ahead at all times.

Tuning into the the second photo more...

I find him cold and non caring and he is still very much the same as when he was younger - just in an old shell. (Obviously not outside anymore though or likely a prankster). There is no change in his attitude, thinking, and on the inside he is "smug".

Another thing that is unsettling for me is I cant look into his eyes for too long without starting to feel uncomfortable and I really want to avoid eye contact - it really feels like he is watching me from the other side of the screen.

If I am paranoid - bet you he was and is too.

I cant help but wonder if, for his victims, he was like the "devil".
 

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Looking at it all...

Different vibes with both photos except for the "feeling" with his eyes...even though taken decades apart.

In a way, like two different people.

I would say he was and can be like that - the Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde type.

Jail I think has brought out the colder and real side of himself, but not the truth.
 

junethird

Ok im back!

I looked at the pics earlier and then had to put the forum on hold and get back to life duties... But i thought about the pictures and to me he also looks 'normal'. Whatever that is lol. He kinda reminds me of uncle rico from napoleon dynamite. Its weird. I cant shake the character off... Feels like he was stuck in a timewarp for some reason.... His eyes seem brght, full of life and mischivious. Like the type who likes to laugh and play pranks maybe.

His older picture made me sad. He looks beaten and like the life been sucked out of him.he is a shell of his former youth and glory compared to the picture above. For once in my life i felt pity...
 

junethird

Im not sure what else to add on the pictures... Honestly in my opinion pictures dont always portray the 'truth' but they do capture the essence. And to me i pick up the essence of an unlucky guy maybe. Hard pressed. Hard times. But not sinister like the crimes of rape and murder. Its weird. I feel so sad for him. An unlucky fate like he didnt deserve it... Ive seen other pictures of hard cold killers and Milats pictures compared to serial killers has a very different vibe i feel... Weird.

Please dont take my comments for justifying or contradicting evidence and his sentence. Im just putting to work my intuitive scrying muscles :angel: i feel we all pick up different pieces of the puzzles intuitively. I dont think he started off as evil but somehwere along the way he obviously lost his way and his soul became dark ad toxic... Its sad to see how our fate evolves and ends.
 

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Feel pity?. You are too kind.

How lucky for him he has struck that chord in you...and others I'd say.

I am rather curious to see what he is like in person and am considering finding out a way to meet him just once...morbid fascination perhaps.

But I would like to see if anything can be read or picked up from face to face contact. And not just verbally or observing body language. The only concern would be the environment...prison.









Ok im back!

I looked at the pics earlier and then had to put the forum on hold and get back to life duties... But i thought about the pictures and to me he also looks 'normal'. Whatever that is lol. He kinda reminds me of uncle rico from napoleon dynamite. Its weird. I cant shake the character off... Feels like he was stuck in a timewarp for some reason.... His eyes seem brght, full of life and mischivious. Like the type who likes to laugh and play pranks maybe.

His older picture made me sad. He looks beaten and like the life been sucked out of him.he is a shell of his former youth and glory compared to the picture above. For once in my life i felt pity...
 

junethird

I know. I feel a bit weird about and even more weird having put those vibes out in the public forum but oh well thats what i picked up. I do realize Im the worst at picking out who is sketch and who is not.

I hope others join in and can add their impressions. I also find it weird what posts call you and which ones dont. Ive seen some of your other investiative posts from time to time and this one is the one that intrigued me.

And yes the peison atmosphere could be an issue but you seem to have a more stable and strong shield that blocks out noise and can laser in on what you are looking for... So the prison atmosphere may not be an issue afterall. I know i went once on a tour and i could not handle it. I mean i disnt break down or anything hysterical but i did notice how my mood and feelings shifted significantly and it really bothered me. It was like their energy turned my own energy against myself. Like i was beating my own self esteem or my own soul up. But you are stronger so i think you should be ok!
 

junethird

One more thing i find it interesting how in his older picture you can actually tell and see his blue eyes. In his younger picture i thought maybe hazel or bown eyes.

Also i see a yellow tint. A decaying aura on him. Obvs prison life is not healthy but his energy smells of a sick person to me. Maybe not hepatitis but liver or kidney disease. i feel he will pass away soon aswell will not live past 5 years more maybe.
 

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I had an inkling too. ..

As in to try and see him before he dies is what was whispered to me.

Just got the number 8 with him too and I don't think victims plus the name "Sonia" when I did a close up on his eyes just now.

Need to see if the name means anything as well as to see if more comes through when I can get better time.






313640 said:
One more thing i find it interesting how in his older picture you can actually tell and see his blue eyes. In his younger picture i thought maybe hazel or bown eyes.

Also i see a yellow tint. A decaying aura on him. Obvs prison life is not healthy but his energy smells of a sick person to me. Maybe not hepatitis but liver or kidney disease. i feel he will pass away soon aswell will not live past 5 years more maybe.
 

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The "8" came up with the Lenormand when I think about it too.

May have to start looking at area maps where that forest is or along those lines.

Even the 8th child born to the Milats might be an idea.

Something in the number, but I don't feel it is the number of victims.