how do you approach reading about public figures/events?

[blueeyetea]

You may want to double check with your police department, because you may be very surprised what is legal.

Of course someone can photographing my house from the sidewalk is perfectly legal, since Google already has come around and filmed the whole neighborhood (although they did blur car license plates in people's driveways).

Someone looking into my house with a telescope is called a peeping tom, and that's definitely illegal, because it can easily escalate into a dangerous situation for the person being spied on. It's also called stalking.

That the second situation can be equated to a tarot reading is highly questionable.

It doesn't matter to them whether or not you 'verify' the reading. They can use that information any way they like,

So? Information, or put another way data, about me is being used already whether I want to or not. A tarot reading is just another set of assumptions based on what the card says. I still have my free will. Whatever conclusion they come up with doesn't mean I will follow the scenario they've invented.

 

[CrystalSeas]

Someone looking into my house with a telescope

You have confused a telescope with a telescopic camera lens. I can stand on your sidewalk and use a telescopic lens and be perfectly legal.

My point is that if you believe that a Tarot reading can give you accurate insights into someone else's feelings and thoughts, then doing such a reading on them is equivalent to peering into their house from the sidewalk with a telephoto lens.

I'm firmly on the side of the 'don't peer into people's minds and feelings (or homes) with tools at your disposal, even if it is legal'.

Other people think it's just fine to use cameras and cards that way.

 

[nisaba]

Well, you have to admit that a stranger looking into my house with their telescope is *against the law* and a clear breach of privacy.

A Tarot reading against my will or without my knowledge is a clear breach of privacy, and would have been against the law if the legislators had thought about it.

Besides that, people talk about other people behind their backs all the time,

<sharply> Which is equally wrong. Just because something CAN be done and even IS done, doesn't make it right. Even just asking the question about it means the questioner must have at least a part of themself that is uncomfortable with the immorality of it.

 

[nisaba]

Reading about them/for them (and it sure isn't FOR them - they will never hear what you say) contributes to that. Tacky.

... And is just another kind of observation focussed on them.

Prince Harry was mentioned earlier, then someone else came along and said that all celebrities are only there because (and I paraphrase, using a time-honoured phrase) they are attention-whores. Is Prince Harry? Can you even IMAGINE what his grandmother (and the rest of the family) would DO to him if he said "A life in the public eye is not for me, I'm giving up my job and becoming an anonymous private citizen"?

Some people don't have a choice. And it's just rude to contribute to the violation of their privacy, by taking more photos, tapping their phones, or doing readings about them.

On principle, I even refuse to buy gossip-magazines, and I wouldn't know one thing about the personal lives of celebrities. And I say that with pride.

I will willingly read for and about other people - IF THEY ASK ME TO. For THEIR benefit, not for my curiosity.

 

[blueeyetea]

I feel that the most appropriate way to use tarot is to learn more about ourselves and get advice on how to act to change what we don't like in our lives

The longer I'm around here and see the waves of "does X think I'm sexy?" or "what's happening between Y and Z?" readings, the stronger I feel that this is not a good, constructive or ethical way to use tarot. Prying into the inner world of others is wrong, no matter what tool you use.

I cannot express this as well as others but I also find reading about the emotions or doings of others, whether celebrity or not, to be disturbing and intrusive.

If someone comes to you for a reading on a problem they are having in their love relationship, how can you not take the 3rd party into account? How could that even be possible, since they are two people in the relationship, one of them sitting in front of you? It's not like she can control everything in the relationship, or be the only one responsible to make changes to make the problem go away. If a reader will only do a reading considering her point of view, why bother getting a reading? She already knows her side of the story. She wants insight and more information than she already has, and won't or can't get from her partner.

 

[blueeyetea]

But what is SO odd about this one, what baffles me about the question in the first place, is why anyone would want to read at all on celebrities etc. What's the POINT ?

Because it's good practice in learning to read the cards, and if you're lucky, you'll eventually find out if you reading was accurate.

 

[CrystalSeas]

She already knows her side of the story. She wants insight and more information than she already has, and won't or can't get from her partner.

Would you suggest that people read through their partner's computer and phone if they get the chance? Should they open the mail that is addressed solely to their partner? How about installing a secret app that forwards all their PMs and emails to the snoopy partner's phone? Or a geo-tracking app that lets the snoopy partner see where they are and where they've been

[yes, all of these apps exist. If you're in an abusive, controlling relationship, you need to find out more about them]

Does a partner who doesn't want to disclose information give up all privacy? If not, where is the line?

The tools exist. Cards, apps that forward everything you do on your phone, apps that show exactly where you go all day and all night without your knowledge or permission.

People certainly have the freedom to use them on their partners who are not willingly disclosing the information. And any reader has the freedom to peer into someone's life on behalf of another. No one will (or can) stop you.

But it might be useful to think why it's a good idea to override someone else's boundaries. And it might be useful to think why someone who is a celebrity is a better choice for a victim than anyone else

 

[blueeyetea]

Does a partner who doesn't want to disclose information give up all privacy? If not, where is the line?

What's the point of going to a reader if not to get more information that I currently have?

If I suspect my partner is cheating on me, don't I have a right to know if he is or not? I would consider it a poor reading indeed if the reader told me that she would only focus on me to protect my partner's feelings and privacy. What good would that do? It would leave me with the same information I had before. There are only two possible answers here, either he's cheating, or it's in my imagination and he's not cheating. There's no way the Tarot could provide a useful answer without taking the partner into consideration.

 

[blueeyetea]

You have confused a telescope with a telescopic camera lens. I can stand on your sidewalk and use a telescopic lens and be perfectly legal.

Maybe, but are they taking pictures of outside the house, or inside and what I'm doing? If it's the latter, privacy laws here require that the photographer get authorization from me to use the picture. There's a difference between public space, the outside of my house, and private space, inside the walls. I have expectations that no one will take pictures of me without permission when I'm inside the walls of my house. So, no, it's not legal to take pictures of me inside my house from the sidewalk.

 

[blueeyetea]

A Tarot reading against my will or without my knowledge is a clear breach of privacy, and would have been against the law if the legislators had thought about it.

They probably have thought about it, but at its most basic, a tarot reading is an opinion, and opinions can't be legislated. People have a right to think what they want and, with some limited exceptions, say what they want. That won't change until there's a way to prove readers give accurate information. In other words, a tarot reading could be considered an educated guess.