thoth questions

[Lilliana]

I'm planning on buying the thoth deck and have a few questions about it.

I have experience in the traditional rider decks. Would I be able to work with this deck right away?

I eventually plan on getting a book to further explore this deck, but won't be able to afford one for some time (I would prefer to study the cards and develop my own meanings first anyway). Is this a recommended way to go about getting to know the thoth deck, or do you really need a book when you're starting?

Does the thoth deck use traditional numerical meanings (two's representing duality, three's representing growth etc.)?

How much do the thoth meanings differ from rider ones?

Are there any websites which focus on the thoth deck exclusively? I tried doing a few searches, but only got links to pages selling the cards.

Thanks in advance.
Sorry for so many questions. Heh.

Lilliana

 

[Jewel]

Personally I prefer to establish a raport with my cards prior to reading a book, so I think your idea of getting to know the cards is a great one!

The Thoth deck is one that I have, I really like, but want to have special time to dedicate to it (which I have not had yet), so I am not in a position to tell you about similarities and differences between the two. What I do not know about the Thoth deck that has really attracted me to it is connection with the Qabalah, and the cards are powerful and beautiful. Numerical meanings should remain the same as their basis is in numerology not Tarot ... The court cards are labeled a little different (but there still are 4, same meanings), and I believe there are one or 2 major arcana cards renamed. Although others may not agree, in my humble opinion this is not a beginners deck, I personally find it quite esoteric and rich in symbolism.

For a review on this deck go to www.wicce.com. The deck reviews there are great, and they will give you a lot of the info you are asking about.

Good luck!

 

[Lilliana]

thanks for your post jewel.

Hopefully I'll be able to buy the deck tomorrow.

I'm also going to look for the books you suggested in my other post.

I can feel a wild spending spree approaching, despite my finanaces (or lack of) hee hee.

Lilli

 

[Greenman]

a number of the cards are renamed, and two have changed places. Justice becomes 'Adjustment', and is trump #8. and strength becomes 'Lust', and is trump #11. Temperamce remains at #14, but is called 'Art'. Judgement is 'The Aeon' (still #20), and The World is now 'The Universe' (#21).
the Court cards are Knight (fire), Queen (water), Prince (air) and Princess (earth).
and the minors retain the GD alignment of Swords/air and Wands/fire.

i'll post this again in case you didn't catch it;
http://hungry.piranho.de/claas/olive_e.html

and this is interesting too;
http://www.fadmag.com/fallen/items/crowley/thoth.html

 

[mystic]

Lilliana,

What a treat your in for....I've been using the deck for some time now (2 yrs) and find it amazing. I hope you get the US Games version as the colors are much more brilliant and have no green tinge to them.

As a comparison to RW, it matches fairly well. The card meanings are 70% the same. There are some astrological differences as well as some differences in the Qabbalah makeup, but otherwise very close to the original.

I will take a while to learn the meanings as the cards ring deep with symbology, color and astrology. Not a beginner deck, but well worth the study.

Good luck and come back and let us know how your doing!!

-Love and Light

 

[Strange2]

Although the Crowley/Harris Thoth deck certainly has a different energy and intensity than the Rider-Waite deck, if you have a basic familiarity with Tarot than you should be able get into Thoth without a book. The images on the Thoth majors and court cards have a way of jumping out and bringing you in, and I say that in a good way.

A very good site dedicated to the Thoth deck is Tarot Inspiration. They feature book reviews and a discussion board:
- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2110/

The Ra-Hoor-Khuit Network's Book of Thoth site has descriptions of the cards from Crowley's Book of Thoth and the LWB:
http://www.rahoorkhuit.net/library/thoth/

Another Thoth discussion board is Thoth_Tarot:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thoth_tarot

You'll find a lot of fans of the Thoth deck here, so feel free to talk Thoth anytime!

 

[starangel]

Hi,

You may wanna try going to www.angelpaths.com as well!
It s a pretty site that has a review on each individual card!

starangel

 

[purplelady]

Quote:mystic (15 Nov, 2001 09:40):
I hope you get the US Games version as the colors are much more brilliant and have no green tinge to them.



I just bought the u.s. games large version , and It is the greenish one. I wish I had waited and bought the large swiss version I think (?) by AG Muller as I hear the colors are much nicer. I still really look foward to working with the deck (again)though.

 

[purplelady]

O.K.after returning from amazon.com, I'm not so sure. I Know there are at least 3 versions available. One is the small or regular size deck. The next is the large size. Both in a green box by u.s. games. That's the one I have , in the large box. Then there is a Swiss Large Crowley Thoth deck which is supposed to have much better colors. I am uncertain if this one is also u.s. games? Also , I'd be worried if Amazon would send the swiss edition or the u.s. one as it doesn't seem to be very clear at their site which one you'd actually be ordering.

 

[purplelady]

Also strange2 , thank you for the links , I'm going to explore them more. Starangel , I went to angelpaths.com but could not find a review for each card of the thoth deck?